Sunday, May 9, 2010

Open Forum May 9, 2010



TOPIC: Open Forum


Since we keep everyone on a tight reign of topic most Sundays, we’re trying to do an Open Forum once a month.  It’s always interesting to read both EURO and USA chats to see the different global interests.  Read on and enjoy! @jeannevb

EURO moderator: Mina Zaher, @DreamsGrafter
USA moderator: Jeanne Veillette Bowerman, @jeannevb

EURO chat:

7:03 pm                DreamsGrafter:                EURO #SCRIPTCHAT  O'CLOCK. Open topic tonight so we can talk about anything that takes your fancy.
7:03 pm             filmutopia:             @DreamsGrafter has #scriptchat changed times tonight?
7:04 pm             davidpbaker:             RT @DreamsGrafter: EURO #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK. Open topic tonight so we can talk about anything that takes your fancy.
7:04 pm             zacsanford:             Just arrived back from the Farmers Market with my new crack (watermelon lemonade) just in time for UK #scriptchat.
7:04 pm             johnrackham:             RT @DreamsGrafter: EURO #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK. Open topic tonight so we can talk about anything that takes your fancy.
7:04 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @filmutopia Hi, no - #scriptchat is on now. I think the time on this computer is a bit slow. Sorry. Let's go -
7:04 pm             yingandyang:             #scriptchat - Hi! Writing as we speak and following the chat. For some reason I thought we were discussing Chinatown? Did I miss that chat?
7:05 pm             zacsanford2:             Hello everyone! So what do we feel like talkin' about? Oh, and Happy Mothers Day to all you mothers out there. #scriptchat
7:05 pm             zacsanford2:             @yingandyang Chinatown will be the first Sunday in June. #scriptchat
7:05 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @filmutopia By the way, enjoyed reading yr post. It raised quite a few important issues that writers/filmmakers need to address. #scriptchat
7:06 pm             DreamsGrafter:             I have Sate of Play on in the background. Anyone seen it? #scriptchat
7:06 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @filmutopia Main issue - personal stories. How do we make these stories acessible to an audience? #scriptchat
7:07 pm             zacsanford2:             @DreamsGrafter The movie or the BBC mini-series? I've only seen the movie but I have the mini in my netflix queue. #scriptchat
7:08 pm             filmutopia:             @DreamsGrafter thanks #scriptchat - anything in particular or just about the struggle between audience driven and personal movie projects?
7:08 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             Finally got back online. Bloody computer LOL #scriptchat
7:08 pm             DreamsGrafter:             #scriptchat - Check out @filmutopia's latest blog post if you haven't already: #lgm http://post.ly/fKi4
7:09 pm             filmutopia:             @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat I think that there are audiences for a wide variety of movies, not just the average audience member
7:09 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @filmutopia It's the conflict between our personal drive to create and recognising the commercial market. #scriptchat
7:10 pm             filmutopia:             @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat I think one of the thing about personal movies is that they are likely to have niche audiences
7:10 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @filmutopia There's the issue that stories can be regarded as too personal for the market ... but - #scriptchat
7:11 pm             filmutopia:             @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat one of the opportunities with social networking is the produce a "tribal" movie i the Seth Godin sense of tribal
7:11 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @filmutopia There's also the flipside whereby the writer/filmmaker is so focused on the market, it forgets the personal. #scriptchat
7:11 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             @DreamsGrafter Commercial Vs Personal? I think for someone trying to start out, commercial has to be the way #scriptchat
7:11 pm             yingandyang:             #scriptchat thanks, reading the script - and already own the DVD . Anyone seen The Kids Stays in the pIcture , about Bob Evans?
7:12 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             But the very act of writing the story surely makes it personal. #scriptchat
7:14 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @filmutopia There's also the flipside whereby the writer focuses too much on the market, they ignore the personal. #scriptchat
7:15 pm             zacsanford2:             You need both. RT @DreamsGrafter: The flipside whereby the writer focuses too much on the market, they ignore the personal. #scriptchat
7:15 pm             lizziside:             I see that culture in general is not easily accessible, that's why my first thought goes to the audience #scriptchat
7:15 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @Jonathan_Peace But places like the BBC are looking for fresh voices rather than commercial ideas? #scriptchat
7:16 pm             filmutopia:             @DreamsGrafter I agree. #scriptchat
7:16 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @Jonathan_Peace Don't you think you need to develop voice before developing commercial ideas? #scriptchat
7:17 pm             lizziside:             maybe we shd define "personal"..a personal message may be conveyed conventionally to reach out the most #scriptchat
7:17 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Who is the audience? RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat one of the thing about personal movies is that they are likely to have niche audiences
7:18 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             @DreamsGrafter What is the definition of 'commercial'? A genre film; event film. If that's what the 'writer' wants >> #scriptchat
7:18 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @zacsanford2: You need both. RT @DreamsGrafter: The flipside whereby the writer focuses too much on the market, they ignore the personal. #scriptchat
7:19 pm             lizziside:             RT @lizziside: @filmutopia I wld be very please to know what's meant by "personal" #scriptchat
7:19 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @zacsanford2 Hi Zac, welcome! Hope you're feeling much better. #scriptchat
7:19 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             @DreamsGrafter to write, then they will find their voice as they do so. I believe all scripts become personal to the writer >> #scriptchat
7:20 pm             zacsanford2:             @DreamsGrafter Doing better but splitting my #scriptchat time right now with reading. Probably won't make the US chat. #scriptchat
7:20 pm             thewritertype:             #scriptchat Just got in from seeing 4 Lions, Chris Morris's comedy about jihadi terrorists. Culture thru the personal.
7:20 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @Jonathan_Peace Commercial: a film that sells. #scriptchat
7:20 pm             zacsanford2:             @DreamsGrafter But I'm not sure of personal/commercial views in the UK compared to the US. #scriptchat
7:20 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             @DreamsGrafter If they are to be any good, they have to be. If a script isn't personal to the writer, how will others like it? #scriptchat
7:21 pm             filmutopia:             #scriptchat my understanding is that a personal movie is one where my need to tell a story is more important than audience considerations
7:21 pm             lizziside:             Why "commercial" has to mean "moronic" and "meaningless"? #scriptchat
7:21 pm             davidpbaker:             writers, filmmakers, check out #scriptchat
7:22 pm             julianfriedmann:             Personal stories (Erin Brokovitch) are usually niche bec they not told well or accessibly enough. Personal does not = niche #scriptchat
7:22 pm             johnrackham:             #scriptchat All my ideas are for films that I want to see, but that's the only way they're personal. I can't write about myself.
7:23 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @zacsanford2 What do you think re personal films? Where do you see the market? #scriptchat
7:23 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat my understanding is that a personal movie is one where my need to tell a story is more important than audience considerations
7:23 pm             julianfriedmann:             The story is not the same as they way you choose to tell it; ie lots of ways of telling the same story; #scriptchat
7:24 pm             lizziside:             Even the films of Aki Kaurismaki or Ken Loach sell RT @DreamsGrafter: @Jonathan_Peace Commercial: a film that sells. #scriptchat
7:24 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @filmutopia But re film, don't we always have to remember the audience? i.e. audience expectations & why audiences watch movies? #scriptchat
7:24 pm             filmutopia:             @julianfriedmann Within the context of the 1950's free cinema movement it does, which is where this discussion started. #scriptchat
7:24 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @filmutopia Who do you see as your audience? #scriptchat
7:24 pm             zacsanford2:             @DreamsGrafter with "personal" films writers still have to know who their audience is. Write to the audience and do it well. #scriptchat
7:24 pm             julianfriedmann:             @filmutopia Disagree; all stories can be told in a way that makes them accessible to an audience, small or large. #scriptchat
7:24 pm             thewritertype:             @filmutopia #scriptchat If a 'personal' story is more important than the audience, who are you telling it to?
7:25 pm             pete_darby:             @filmutopia so, if it's a personal story, why tell it in film, not text or audio? #scriptchat
7:25 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             If your need to tell a story is more important than audience consideration, surely it should be a book? #scriptchat
7:25 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @thewritertype I really want to see Four Lions! Hope you enjoyed Paul. #scriptchat - Welcome!
7:25 pm             cinematicshot:             RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat my understanding is that a personal movie is one where my need to tell a story is more important than audience considerations
7:25 pm             zacsanford2:             My first script was a "personal" story. I needed to write it for me and it will never be seen by anyone. #scriptchat
7:26 pm             julianfriedmann:             Commercial is a film that makes more money than it costs. #scriptchat
7:26 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Thanks David! RT @davidpbaker: writers, filmmakers, check out #scriptchat
7:26 pm             filmutopia:             @pete_darby #scriptchat My answer is why not film? I don't see why the medium you choose is important.
7:26 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             I know I'm learning, but surely audience consideration should be in mind with every word of the script? #scriptchat
7:26 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @zacsanford2 Could you adapt it to a genre to make it more commercial? #scriptchat
7:27 pm             zacsanford2:             Unless you're financing and releasing your films yourself, you should also at least know and consider the commercial appeal. #scriptchat
7:27 pm             julianfriedmann:             @Jonathan_Peace Your need to tell a story without consideration of audience is selfindulgent; what's wrong w good storytelling? #scriptchat
7:27 pm             lupiilu:             good evening all #scriptchat
7:28 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             I had a personal story to tell about my divorce. It took years to write as novel, script, poem. You can buy it at lulu.com LOL #scriptchat
7:28 pm             zacsanford2:             @DreamsGrafter Adaptation is a great example that became a personal story. Kaufman's struggle to adapt and unadaptable book. #scriptchat
7:28 pm             julianfriedmann:             @zacsanford2 But a personal story you need to tell does not therefore need to be written inaccessibly. #scriptchat
7:28 pm             zacsanford2:             @DreamsGrafter But I think Adaptation is a commercial film for a niche market. #scriptchat
7:28 pm             DreamsGrafter:             I also love the quote: "An attitude means a style. A style means an attitude" in @filmutopia's post. This means voice to me. #scriptchat
7:28 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @zacsanford2: Unless you're financing and releasing your films yourself, you should also at least know and consider the commercial appeal. #scriptchat
7:28 pm             zacsanford2:             @julianfriedmann True, if I went back and rewrote the first script, I'm sure I could place it in a commercial setting. #scriptchat
7:29 pm             julianfriedmann:             Aristotle's pity/fear/catharsis is about hooking the audience (or reader) so they engage w your story, personal or genre etc #scriptchat
7:29 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             @julianfriedmann That was my point exactly. Your audience should be kept in mind whatever form the writing takes. #scriptchat
7:29 pm             carter_andrewj:             Feels good to finally have some time to join #scriptchat again - even if I only end up hovering stealthily...
7:29 pm             yingandyang:             #scriptchat 'better to write for yourself and have no audience, than write for an audience and have no self' J Connolly said that, I think.
7:29 pm             pete_darby:             @filmutopia because film most collaborative process, much more so than text, or even audio #scriptchat
7:29 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @julianfriedmann Hi Julian, good to see you at #scriptchat!
7:30 pm             lizziside:             RT @julianfriedmann: @filmutopia Disagree; all stories can be told in a way that makes them accessible to an audience, small or large. #scriptchat
7:30 pm             julianfriedmann:             @DreamsGrafter Most stories are genre and if elusive then clever writing uses genre conventions to make it more recognisable #scriptchat
7:30 pm             julianfriedmann:             RT @Jonathan_Peace: I know I'm learning, but surely audience consideration should be in mind with every word of the script? #scriptchat
7:30 pm             cinematicshot:             #scriptchat I think a personal film can be filtered through genre. Chinatown was a detective film but also personal for Towne.
7:30 pm             johnrackham:             @DreamsGrafter When you're financing a film yourself you definitely think about commercial appeal #scriptchat
7:31 pm             filmutopia:             @pete_darby #scriptchat Not the way I do it - http://tinyurl.com/ybucw2v
7:31 pm             julianfriedmann:             @DreamsGrafter Thanks, managed not to be out this time. Shd be reading a script though.#scriptchat
7:31 pm             lupiilu:             it depends on the story,, not every story will appeal to every audience, but some personal stories can naturally have appeal #scriptchat
7:31 pm             yingandyang:             #scriptchat - obviously screenplays are different, but as writers we need to find our voice first and be confident, if other people dig it >
7:31 pm             zacsanford2:             If you write a script and you have zero personal connection to the story, hopefully you're being paid well. #scriptchat
7:31 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @zacsanford2 Re Adaptation, I guess the chase/shootings at the end gave it a commercial edge. #scriptchat
7:32 pm             lupiilu:             @cinematicshot through genre, that's an interesting idea I had not considered before, but when too personal, how would you? #scriptchat
7:32 pm             julianfriedmann:             @lupiilu No one is saying every story must appeal to all potential audiences, but most can be more accessible. #scriptchat
7:32 pm             yingandyang:             #scriptchat > then it's a bonus, my motto anyway.<
7:32 pm             thewritertype:             #scriptchat I love 'personal' films - as long as I can be the person. With everyone else in audience, if it works.
7:32 pm             filmutopia:             #scriptchat A lot of this is about writer confidence. You can either follow the path or take the risk of creating a new path and proving it
7:32 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @zacsanford2 Otherwise, it'd (Adaptation) would have turned out like Synechdoche. #scriptchat
7:33 pm             zacsanford2:             Every script I write I have a personal connection to the characters and/or theme. Even though big budget ideas, still personal. #scriptchat
7:33 pm             julianfriedmann:             Average US movie has less dialogue than EU movie and travels better to wider audience since less dep on education or language. #scriptchat
7:33 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @carter_andrewj Hello and welcome! Dive in. What drives your stories? Personal creativity or are you aware of the market? #scriptchat
7:34 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @filmutopia This industry needs more risk takers and business minds to allow it. Agreed. #scriptchat
7:34 pm             julianfriedmann:             Less dialogue = more visual = greater impact on wider audience as not so depend on linguistic ability or education . #scriptchat
7:34 pm             lizziside:             I can sencond that RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat You can either follow the path or take the risk of creating a new path and proving it
7:34 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @zacsanford2: Every script I write I have a personal connection to the characters and/or theme. Even though big budget ideas, still personal. #scriptchat
7:35 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @julianfriedmann: Average US movie has less dialogue than EU movie and travels better to wider audience since less dep on education or language. #scriptchat
7:35 pm             onewordtoofar:             I think all good films are personal stories, hence central characters. As personal to the audience as to the writer #scriptchat
7:35 pm             zacsanford2:             .@julianfriedmann I was at a movie in LA where people by me had limited English skills, but the film was by Michael Bay. :) #scriptchat
7:35 pm             filmutopia:             #scriptchat Point I wanted to make is that these days it's possible create personal projects and still whore yourself for the industry
7:35 pm             julianfriedmann:             Accessibility factor: we believe what we see (so use less dialogue) for greater direct emotional impact on wider audience. #scriptchat
7:35 pm             pete_darby:             @filmutopia But still need actors... novelists don't... (I 'm really being nitpicky now!) #scriptchat
7:36 pm             lupiilu:             @julianfriedmann agreed, I think sometimes sharing the story is the most important thin, regardless of number, thats why I write #scriptchat
7:36 pm             lizziside:             Audience is not a mass of idiots, we can provide them w st better. Agree with @filmutopia #scriptchat
7:36 pm             DreamsGrafter:             You & @zacsanford2 ;) RT@julianfriedmann: @DreamsGrafter Thanks, managed not to be out this time. Shd be reading a script tho'.#scriptchat
7:37 pm             rachlanger:             Hello all in #scriptchat. Lurking. #scriptchat
7:37 pm             julianfriedmann:             @zacsanford2 Great you have personal connec w central character; good writing makes audience have a personal connec to charac. #scriptchat
7:37 pm             lupiilu:             @julianfriedmann most of my stories are simply stories I want to see, I write what I want to watch, I'm the audience #scriptchat
7:38 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @julianfriedmann: @zacsanford2 Great you have personal connec w central character; good writing makes audience have a personal connec to charac. #scriptchat
7:38 pm             carter_andrewj:             On commercialised films. The great ones find a way to have something for everyone. The bad ones just have something for anyone. #scriptchat
7:38 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @rachlanger Hey Rachel, welcome! We're discussing personal stories vs. the market ... (or working together). #scriptchat
7:39 pm             twatterer:             @lizziside audience always more intelligent than we imagine. Treat them otherwise at our peril. #scriptchat
7:39 pm             filmutopia:             @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat Bingo! Exactly. That's precisely what I mean. I think the current understanding of commercial is too narrow.
7:39 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @rachlanger Do you keep the market in mind when you're writing your stories? #scriptchat
7:39 pm             zacsanford2:             Great RT @carter_andrewj: The great ones find a way to have something for everyone. The bad ones just have something for anyone. #scriptchat
7:39 pm             jeannevb:             hey! I'm baaaack ;) #scriptchat
7:39 pm             julianfriedmann:             RT @twatterer: @lizziside audience always more intelligent than we imagine. Treat them otherwise at our peril. #scriptchat
7:39 pm             lizziside:             @rachlanger Hello :-)) #scriptchat #scriptchat
7:40 pm             lupiilu:             @DreamsGrafter I always have personal connection with character, theme, story, ultimately they're stories I want to tell #scriptchat
7:40 pm             rachlanger:             @DreamsGrafter Great topic! Thanks! I do keep the market in mind, though I don't necessarily make that my only guiding point. #scriptchat
7:40 pm             jeannevb:             I know it's open topic, but since I'm stepping in late, where are we? #scriptchat
7:40 pm             rachlanger:             @lizziside Hi there! #scriptchat
7:40 pm             zacsanford2:             Hola! RT @jeannevb: hey! Im baaaack ;) #scriptchat
7:40 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @twatterer Welcome! #scriptchat
7:40 pm             julianfriedmann:             @lupiilu Unlkess you v talented stick to poetry and novels and plays. Films costs too much . #scriptchat
7:40 pm             filmutopia:             #scriptchat There is a direct link between cost of production and how broad the audience needs to be. You have to understand the maths
7:41 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             My first script was an adaptation of my own - personal - novella. My second a horror. I'm working on another 'event type' script #scriptchat
7:41 pm             jeannevb:             @zacsanford2 hey, hope ur feeling better #scriptchat
7:41 pm             zacsanford2:             @jeannevb We're talking personal stories vs the market. #scriptchat
7:41 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @jeannevb Yay! #scriptchat
7:41 pm             2weddings:             RT @julianfriedmann: @twatterer: @lizziside audience always more intelligent than we imagine. Treat them otherwise at our peril. #scriptchat
7:42 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @lizziside: Audience is not a mass of idiots, we can provide them w st better. Agree with @filmutopia #scriptchat
7:42 pm             jeannevb:             thx RT @zacsanford2: @jeannevb Were talking personal stories vs the market. #scriptchat
7:42 pm             zacsanford2:             @jeannevb Feeling better. still have a bit of a cough. #scriptchat
7:42 pm             rachlanger:             @jeannevb How's my favourite pimpette? #scriptchat
7:42 pm             dianewms:             @zacsanford2 I have nothing but personal reasons for my scripts: they're all about my ancestors! #scriptchat
7:42 pm             julianfriedmann:             RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat There is a direct link betw cost of production and how broad audience needs to be. Understand the maths
7:42 pm             lizziside:             My point exactly RT @twatterer: @lizziside audience always more intelligent than we imagine. Treat them otherwise at our peril. #scriptchat
7:42 pm             jeannevb:             first script i wrote was WAY too personal. Cldn't remove myself enough to be objective. Bad choice #scriptchat
7:42 pm             jeannevb:             @rachlanger i'm great! You? #scriptchat
7:42 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @lupiilu Do you think of genres when you think of films you want to see? #scriptchat - or is it more characters? worlds?
7:43 pm             julianfriedmann:             Keeping the market in mind is about how you tell the story not about what story you tell. #scriptchat
7:43 pm             jeannevb:             I do need to feel connected/passionate about whatever I write though. So some level of "personal" is always there #scriptchat
7:43 pm             zacsanford2:             .@filmutopia is right. The bigger the budget the broader the audience needed (and the bigger P&A expense). :) #scriptchat
7:43 pm             filmutopia:             @julianfriedmann Precisely, which is why Julie Delphy's 2 Days in Paris was so low budget #scriptchat (great movie though)
7:43 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             Yet I twisted the premise of the personal story so that it had better appeal. #scriptchat
7:43 pm             twatterer:             @DreamsGrafter thanking you. :) #scriptchat
7:43 pm             cinematicshot:             @lupiilu if it's that personal, I'd forget genre and just tell the story the best way you can. #scriptchat
7:43 pm             2weddings:             @julianfriedmann heard 1 way of writing scripts is write dialogue last #scriptchat
7:43 pm             zacsanford2:             But here in the States, the studios are making films bigger and bigger and moving away from the smaller side. #scriptchat
7:44 pm             rachlanger:             @jeannevb trying to kick this sick (I'm convinced @zacsanford twittered his bug to me, LoL) but great otherwise! #scriptchat
7:44 pm             filmutopia:             #scriptchat What that means is that personal projects need to be micro/no budget - hence the whole Free Cinema parallel
7:44 pm             jeannevb:             I'm late so not sure u all saw @filmutopia's blog post today http://bit.ly/9Aqzgt #scriptchat
7:44 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat What that means is that personal projects need to be micro/no budget - hence the whole Free Cinema parallel
7:44 pm             carter_andrewj:             There's always a trade-off. Personal scripts are good scripts. Commercial scripts are scripts that sell. Disregard neither. #scriptchat
7:45 pm             rachlanger:             @zacsanford2 If you want to develop as a newbie writer and hope to get paid, writing for the market is important, yes? #scriptchat
7:45 pm             julianfriedmann:             Make a story more commercial by writing a better antagonist: see TwelvePoint free article http://bit.ly/aA961l #twelvepoint #scriptchat
7:45 pm             julianfriedmann:             Make a story more commercial by writing a better antagonist: see TwelvePoint free article http://bit.ly/aA961l #scriptchat
7:45 pm             twatterer:             @filmutopia 2 Days in Paris is a super film! #scriptchat
7:45 pm             jeannevb:             @rachlanger @zacsanford you two really have to stop sleeping together ;) #scriptchat
7:45 pm             zacsanford2:             @rachlanger Sorry I virtually coughed on you. :) #scriptchat
7:45 pm             jeannevb:             @DreamsGrafter *smooch* #scriptchat
7:45 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Loved that film! RT @filmutopia: @julianfriedmann Precisely, which is why Julie Delphy's 2 Days in Paris was so low budget #scriptchat
7:46 pm             zacsanford2:             Shhh, don't tell @dereklanger RT @jeannevb: @rachlanger @zacsanford you two really have to stop sleeping together ;) #scriptchat
7:46 pm             pete_darby:             @carter_andrewj ALL personal scripts are good scripts?!?!?! Surely "Good scripts are personal"? #scriptchat
7:46 pm             julianfriedmann:             @2weddings Good way since you will have worked story out step by step and dialogue then not used to state obvious #scriptchat
7:46 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             A guy in UK made a zombie film (commercial) for less than £150 which was screened at Sundance I think. Personal AND commercial #scriptchat
7:46 pm             rachlanger:             @zacsanford2 LoL, great. Now I can go make all the mommy's sick at work tonight. I forgive you though. #scriptchat
7:46 pm             lupiilu:             @DreamsGrafter mostly theme and character and how both relate to each other, plot is next for me, #scriptchat
7:46 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @julianfriedmann: Make a story more commercial by writing a better antagonist: see TwelvePoint free article http://bit.ly/aA961l #twelvepoint #scriptchat
7:46 pm             jeannevb:             @zacsanford2 @dereklanger @rachlanger heehee.... now that's a personal story w commercial appeal :) #scriptchat
7:46 pm             zacsanford2:             @rachlanger Here in the states you don't want to write to trends, but write to a specific audience and nail that audience. #scriptchat
7:47 pm             filmutopia:             @DreamsGrafter Precisely. It is possible to make great little movies if you have the chops and the right cast #scriptchat
7:47 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @zacsanford2: But here in the States, the studios are making films bigger and bigger and moving away from the smaller side. #scriptchat
7:47 pm             lupiilu:             @julianfriedmann ouch, good job I love writing, I always think about audience as well, but if I don't love it how can anyone? #scriptchat
7:47 pm             carter_andrewj:             @pete_darby #scriptchat ...well I certainly chose a stupid place to write poorly, didn't I...?
7:48 pm             julianfriedmann:             @pete_darby Because story or script is personal does NOT make it good. Some of worst script are personal and selfindulgent #scriptchat
7:48 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Agreed! RT @julianfriedmann: Keeping the market in mind is about how you tell the story not about what story you tell. #scriptchat
7:48 pm             rachlanger:             @zacsanford2 That's fair advice. Be good at what you write and know your audience. #scriptchat
7:48 pm             jeannevb:             @DreamsGrafter @zacsanford2 I miss the smaller films. Simple. Less sometimes IS more. Wish LA wld get back to that #scriptchat
7:48 pm             lupiilu:             @cinematicshot the 2 stories that are personal, I plan on folding them too close in form, unsuitable for genre #scriptchat
7:48 pm             carter_andrewj:             Good scripts are personal. Saleable scripts are commercial. Successful scripts are both. #scriptchat (@pete_darby Better now?)
7:48 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             by the way does anyone want a FREE Lexmark 16 black cartridge? I bought the wrong one and they won't take it back. #scriptchat
7:48 pm             lizziside:             RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat There is a direct link between cost of production and how broad the audience needs to be.
7:49 pm             thewritertype:             @lizziside #scriptchat. Audience has emotional intelligence, responds to subtle feelings, sometimes not to nuanced ideas.
7:49 pm             zacsanford2:             I asked a writer one time, "would you watch this film?" to which they replied, "not really my cup of tea." Why did he write it? #scriptchat
7:49 pm             pete_darby:             @carter_andrewj 2nddraft much better. As always. #scriptchat
7:49 pm             zacsanford2:             @rachlanger Hollywood will typecast you as a writer, so that's why I feel it's good to be good at one main genre/audience. #scriptchat
7:49 pm             lupiilu:             @cinematicshot other than that all stories are genre's I enjoy, all different genre's, don't know if they suffer for it though #scriptchat
7:50 pm             julianfriedmann:             Marketing now poss via social networks so small films can be niche + commercial. See 5 articles later this month in TwelvePoint #scriptchat
7:50 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @filmutopia A great story and compelling characters will always attract talent. Two lovers being another example. #scriptchat
7:50 pm             pete_darby:             @julianfriedmann But to be a good script, doesn't it need to be personal? #scriptchat
7:50 pm             julianfriedmann:             RT @thewritertype: @lizziside #scriptchat. Audience has emotional intelligence, responds to subtle feelings, sometimes not to nuanced ideas.
7:50 pm             zacsanford2:             @jeannevb Everything goes in cycles, but since studios are owned by huge conglomerates, they have investors to answer to. #scriptchat
7:50 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @julianfriedmann: Marketing now poss via social networks so small films can be niche + commercial. See 5 articles later this month in TwelvePoint #scriptchat
7:51 pm             carter_andrewj:             @Jonathan_Peace Statutory rights. If you're within 21 days, they can't say no just because you've opened the packet. #scriptchat
7:51 pm             filmutopia:             @DreamsGrafter The problem is attracting talent and attracting finance are not the same. I've had attached talent for a year now #scriptchat
7:51 pm             rachlanger:             @zacsanford2 That's what I've heard here too. Its OK to try your hand at 2 things, but pick a genre that's your selling point. #scriptchat
7:51 pm             jeannevb:             @zacsanford2 then they can throw their wads of $$ at our Slavery script. Nothing simple about that story ;) #scriptchat
7:51 pm             Lenscapper1:             RT @julianfriedmann: Marketing now poss via social networks so small films can be niche + commercial. See 5 articles later this month in TwelvePoint #scriptchat
7:52 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Good tip! RT @zacsanford2: Hollywood will typecast you as a writer, so it's good to be good at one main genre/audience. #scriptchat
7:52 pm             zacsanford2:             @jeannevb the digital revolution will be great for the indie filmmakers/writers once they figure out how to monetize it properly #scriptchat
7:52 pm             julianfriedmann:             @DreamsGrafter This use of personal is ambiguous: good script shd be personal to each memb of audience incl genre films. #scriptchat
7:52 pm             twatterer:             spot on @julianfriedmann 'Write what you know' mantra is responsible 4 a lot of crap. 'Know what you write' is more accurate. #scriptchat
7:52 pm             julianfriedmann:             RT @carter_andrewj: Good scripts are personal. Saleable scripts are commercial. Successful scripts are both. #scriptchat
7:52 pm             lupiilu:             @zacsanford2 I don't know how to write something I wouldn't want to watch, you have to care or why bother #scriptchat
7:53 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             @carter_andrewj Too much hassle. Argued that for three days with him (I used to managed retail so know the rights) but no joy. #scriptchat
7:53 pm             carter_andrewj:             Good article: http://bit.ly/dq7z3W Tony Jordan on why good scripts need to be personal. #scriptchat
7:53 pm             zacsanford2:             @jeannevb There will always be indie companies to make "important" films while the studios make the tentpoles. #scriptchat
7:53 pm             aspiringmama:             @jeannevb you are a busy lady with your projects and #scriptchat. #writechat
7:53 pm             zacsanford2:             @jeannevb Both the smaller and tentpole films can have similar ROIs for the investors, but studios need the bigger scale. #scriptchat
7:53 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @filmutopia And what have the finance ppl said? Re talent. #scriptchat What are they looking for?
7:53 pm             jeannevb:             its interesting how "open forum" on EURO chat does turn into a singular topic. On US, there's a zillion convos going on #scriptchat
7:53 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @zacsanford2: @jeannevb Everything goes in cycles, but since studios are owned by huge conglomerates, they have investors to answer to. #scriptchat
7:53 pm             lizziside:             @thewritertype quite, cinema can do a lot to make those feelings surface #scriptchat
7:54 pm             julianfriedmann:             @zacsanford2 For writer + producer guide to digital revolution see Laura Wilson's 5 articles coming in TwelvePoint #twelvepoint #scriptchat
7:54 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @Jonathan_Peace: by the way does anyone want a FREE Lexmark 16 black cartridge? I bought the wrong one and they won't take it back. #scriptchat
7:54 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @carter_andrewj: Good scripts are personal. Saleable scripts are commercial. Successful scripts are both. #scriptchat (@pete_darby Better now?)
7:54 pm             carter_andrewj:             @Jonathan_Peace Ouch. Would like to help, but have an Epson. Sorry. #scriptchat #tangent
7:55 pm             julianfriedmann:             RT @twatterer: 'Write what you know' mantra is responsible 4 a lot of crap. 'Know what you write' is more accurate. #scriptchat
7:55 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             My plan is to focus on one genre and do that well, rather than be mediocre across the board. Long term plan, but focused. #scriptchat
7:56 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @zacsanford2: @jeannevb There will always be indie companies to make "important" films while the studios make the tentpoles. #scriptchat
7:56 pm             2weddings:             RT @DreamsGrafter: RT @carter_andrewj: Good scripts are personal. Saleable scripts are commercial. Successful scripts are both. #scriptchat
7:56 pm             carter_andrewj:             And speaking of Tony Jordan - any people "in the know" heard whisperings about the announcement for this years Red Planet Prize? #scriptchat
7:56 pm             jeannevb:             @onewordtoofar nothing is ever sorted out on #scriptchat.... except maybe the bar bill ;)
7:57 pm             zacsanford2:             Perfect! RT @twatterer: 'Write what you know' mantra is responsible 4 a lot of crap. 'Know what you write' is more accurate. #scriptchat
7:57 pm             lizziside:             RT @2weddings: RT @DreamsGrafter: RT @carter_andrewj: Good scripts are personal. Saleable scripts are commercial. Successful scripts are both. #scriptchat
7:57 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @zacsanford2 Re distribution - what's it like trying to get into the cinemas? Do the studios book out the screens? #scriptchat
7:58 pm             lupiilu:             @Jonathan_Peace lol, I like, always eclectic, can't help it, I hope to find one later that I prefer, meantime, just write #scriptchat
7:58 pm             thewritertype:             @julianfriedmann #scriptchat And never mind what you know, write what you care about.
7:58 pm             twatterer:             @Jonathan_Peace good plan, Jonathan. Work out your strengths then work on making them stronger. :) #scriptchat
7:58 pm             pete_darby:             @carter_andrewj Lowering production costs means commercial (i.e. viable) audience number requirement lowering... theoretically #scriptchat
7:58 pm             zacsanford2:             @DreamsGrafter Studios book out screens up to 18 months in advance. US has many smaller indie houses though. #scriptchat
7:59 pm             zacsanford2:             @DreamsGrafter Also chains like AMC are allotting a certain percentage of their screens to indie fare, but still need distrib. #scriptchat
7:59 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @carter_andrewj Not yet. I saw a blog post somewhere re Tony Jordan and Kudos meeting. Should be soon. Summer time I heard. #scriptchat
7:59 pm             julianfriedmann:             RT @thewritertype: @julianfriedmann #scriptchat And never mind what you know, write what you care about.
7:59 pm             jeannevb:             I certainly have never been a slaver or even lived in the south but I'm LOVING writing this adaptation #scriptchat
7:59 pm             carter_andrewj:             With no screenwriters festival this year, it's tempting to organise a #scriptchat flashmob to hit Cheltenham in late October...
7:59 pm             lizziside:             We shd meet face-to-face to discuss st so big #scriptchat
7:59 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @twatterer: @Jonathan_Peace good plan, Jonathan. Work out your strengths then work on making them stronger. :) #scriptchat
7:59 pm             zacsanford2:             @DreamsGrafter you can four-wall a release (not cheap) or rent a distributor (which kill you on distro fees). #scriptchat
7:59 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @zacsanford2: @DreamsGrafter Studios book out screens up to 18 months in advance. US has many smaller indie houses though. #scriptchat
8:00 pm             lizziside:             a #scriptchat meet-up in EURO e USA & then one all together
8:00 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             First two scripts I wrote... okay, certainly not bad, but not good enough (yet) to send out. #scriptchat
8:00 pm             julianfriedmann:             Commercial vs personal: surely all writers want as many people as poss to read their work or watch their films? #scriptchat
8:00 pm             lizziside:             RT @Jonathan_Peace: My plan is to focus on one genre and do that well, rather than be mediocre across the board. Long term plan, but focused. #scriptchat
8:01 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @zacsanford2 In UK, it's still quite difficult to get films into indie cinemas. There's a couple of ppl who run the whole thing. #scriptchat
8:01 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             But this next one... oh, boy! LOL #scriptchat
8:01 pm             jmiewald:             I suspect indie films will become less important & more fun in the future. @zacsanford2 "indie companies make "important" films" #scriptchat
8:02 pm             carter_andrewj:             @DreamsGrafter Sorry. Keep missing off the #scriptchat tags. Heard they were opening early summer but announcing early May.
8:02 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @zacsanford2 I guess 'cause the UK is relatively smaller, it's easier to have politics. #scriptchat
8:02 pm             zacsanford2:             @jmiewald Indie Companies still have investors to worry about, but w/smaller budget they don't have to compromise to big auds. #scriptchat
8:02 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @jmiewald: I suspect indie films will become less important & more fun in the future. @zacsanford2 "indie companies make "important" films" #scriptchat
8:02 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @Jonathan_Peace: My plan is to focus on one genre and do that well, rather than be mediocre across the board. Long term plan, but focused. #scriptchat
8:02 pm             jeannevb:             @jmiewald Little Miss Sunshine was indy... not "important" but "fun". It'll happen more & more, I'm sure #scriptchat
8:03 pm             julianfriedmann:             @carter_andrewj There are plans to have a festival for screenwriters but plans still being formed #scriptchat
8:03 pm             2weddings:             @julianfriedmann I know I want ppl to see my films, tho I wonder if some ppl think its enough just to get it made? #scriptchat
8:03 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @julianfriedmann: Commercial vs personal: surely all writers want as many people as poss to read their work or watch their films? #scriptchat
8:03 pm             cinematicshot:             RT @thewritertype: @julianfriedmann #scriptchat And never mind what you know, write what you care about.
8:03 pm             filmutopia:             @julianfriedmann If the script is bent out of shape for commercial reasons, how big is the writer's real audience. #scriptchat
8:03 pm             jeannevb:             @carter_andrewj if u tweet out of http://tweetchat.com/room/scriptchat it auto adds the hashtag ;) #scriptchat
8:04 pm             zacsanford2:             @DreamsGrafter There's several indie Distros here, but even an individual can four-wall (pay) to have their film play. #scriptchat
8:04 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @zacsanford2: @DreamsGrafter Also chains like AMC are allotting a certain percentage of their screens to indie fare, but still need distrib. #scriptchat
8:04 pm             zacsanford2:             That was a quick hour. #scriptchat
8:04 pm             jeannevb:             the smell of brownies baking is distracting me #mothersday #scriptchat
8:04 pm             lupiilu:             @julianfriedmann I have 1 personal story, I have planned several commercial scripts, want all to attract numbers lol #scriptchat
8:05 pm             DreamsGrafter:             ;) RT @carter_andrewj: With no screenwriters fest. this year, it's tempting to organise a #scriptchat flashmob to hit Cheltenham in Oct.
8:05 pm             filmutopia:             #scriptchat An interesting piece from Netribution about the importance of personal film making http://tinyurl.com/2wfrx5v
8:06 pm             twatterer:             @2weddings unfortunately a lot of those involved in the process only focus on finished product & not development of. #scriptchat
8:06 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             If anyone wants to read my self-published personal story you can buy it at either Lulu.com or Amazon.com LOL #scriptchat
8:06 pm             carter_andrewj:             @jeannevb *gasp* It's like a whole new world in here! :D Thanks #scriptchat
8:06 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Thanks everyone for yet another great #SCRIPTCHAT.
8:07 pm             FirstGlanceFilm:             Searching 4 R next indie feature 4 R no cost revshare screening series http://fgfilmfestivals.com/blog/?p=153 #scriptchat #indiefilm
8:07 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @Jonathan_Peace: If anyone wants to read my self-published personal story you can buy it at either Lulu.com or Amazon.com LOL #scriptchat
8:07 pm             jeannevb:             @carter_andrewj *giggle* it is like our own private space. Love it :) #scriptchat
8:07 pm             davidpbaker:             RT @FirstGlanceFilm: Searching 4 R next indie feature 4 R no cost revshare screening series http://fgfilmfestivals.com/blog/?p=153 #scriptchat #indiefilm
8:08 pm             carter_andrewj:             I've actually found the scripts that are both personal and commercial to be the ones which flow together best. #scriptchat
8:08 pm             rachlanger:             @DreamsGrafter Thanks for keeping us all up to date and hosting! You're a star! #scriptchat
8:08 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             Cheers for another brilliant #scriptchat
8:08 pm             lizziside:             Thank u, I really enjoyed #scriptchat 2nite..as I said earlier: it helps shaping ur own thought and maybe ur own style :-))
8:08 pm             jmiewald:             If indie films become the fun Summer films that draw repeat viewers, what happens to the big studios? I think its inevitable. #scriptchat
8:08 pm             jeannevb:             thanks everyone! I'll pull transcript. All EUROs shld try to read the US one since who knows what will be discussed later #scriptchat
8:08 pm             2weddings:             Definitely agree, which is why I'm focusing on development now, using readers on every new draft. #scriptchat
8:08 pm             jeannevb:             Agree! xo RT @rachlanger: @DreamsGrafter Thanks for keeping us all up to date and hosting! Youre a star! #scriptchat
8:09 pm             carter_andrewj:             @julianfriedmann Interesting. I'd heard we had to wait until 2011. Any idea when there's likely to be an official announcement? #scriptchat
8:09 pm             jeannevb:             Before you all go! Next wk is special guest @NevadaGrey of Virtual Pitch Fest. A MUST attend! Access to hollywood globally #scriptchat
8:09 pm             Jonathan_Peace:             @jeannevb see you in a few hours LOL #scriptchat
8:10 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Don't forget we have VIRTUAL PITCH FEST @NevadaGrey guesting next week. Here are the details: http://bit.ly/ba5doa #scriptchat
8:10 pm             jeannevb:             Deets on @NevadaGrey #scriptchat guesting 5/16 http://bit.ly/cZnr3t
8:10 pm             jeannevb:             I'll have ur tequila waiting ;) RT @Jonathan_Peace: @jeannevb see you in a few hours LOL #scriptchat
8:10 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @julianfriedmann and @zacsanford - Hope you both enjoy the scripts you're reading! #scriptchat
8:10 pm             jeannevb:             @DreamsGrafter we are of one mind ;) #scriptchat
8:10 pm             zacsanford2:             @rachlanger Hope you feel better. I've had this thing for 10 days now and just finally feeling better. #scriptchat
8:11 pm             johnrackham:             RT @DreamsGrafter: Don't forget VIRTUAL PITCH FEST @NevadaGrey guesting next week. Here are the details: http://bit.ly/ba5doa #scriptchat
8:12 pm             thewritertype:             Big thanks for #scriptchat; so engrossed I burned the bolognese. I'll call it 'caremelized'.
8:12 pm             Lenscapper1:             RT @DreamsGrafter: Don't forget we have VIRTUAL PITCH FEST @NevadaGrey guesting next week. Here are the details: http://bit.ly/ba5doa #scriptchat
8:13 pm             DreamsGrafter:             And here's @filmutopia's latest blog post that inspired tonight's Euro #scriptchat: http://post.ly/fKi4 - Thanks Clive for food for thought!
8:13 pm             zacsanford2:             RT @DreamsGrafter: Dont forget VIRTUAL PITCHFEST's @NevadaGrey guesting next week. Here are the details: http://bit.ly/ba5doa #scriptchat
8:13 pm             zacsanford2:             I love VPF! Even though we have a no unsolicited submission policy, you can query me through virtualpitchfest.com at any time. #scriptchat
8:14 pm             carter_andrewj:             Thanks for the #scriptchat guys. Always a pleasure :)
8:14 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Haha! ;) Enjoy your Mother Day's nachos and margherita! xo RT @jeannevb: @DreamsGrafter we are of one mind ;) #scriptchat
8:14 pm             jeannevb:             RT @zacsanford: I love VPF! Even though we have no unsolicited submission policy, u can query me through virtualpitchfest.com #scriptchat
8:14 pm             kingisafink:             Yay! RT @jeannevb Next wk is special guest @NevadaGrey of Virtual Pitch Fest. A MUST attend! Access to hollywood globally #scriptchat
8:15 pm             jeannevb:             @DreamsGrafter oh, I will :) #scriptchat
8:15 pm             iceberg061:             RT @filmutopia: @DreamsGrafter Precisely. It is possible to make great little movies if you have the chops and the right cast #scriptchat
8:17 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @twatterer Can't wait to see it! Planning to on Weds. night. Hope you enjoyed #scriptchat ... and had a great weekend.:) xo


USA chat  yes, both hashtags transcripts sites were missing tweets, so we’re forced to read backwards… again.  Terribly sorry for the inconvenience.  Just scroll down to the bottom and read backwards.

jeannevb @MisterFurley actually, it's a really cool site you can make notebooks of hashtag tweets! twapperkeeper.com #scriptchat -9:21 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb thanks again, everyone! I'll post transcript in a few minutes.... PSYCHED for @NevadaGrey next week at BOTH EURO & US chats! #scriptchat -9:20 PM May 9th, 2010
  
sdarancette @MisterFurley (Waves fist) Fuuuurly! Okay, fine, is it walking distance from The Regal Beagle? #scriptchat -9:20 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MisterFurley @jeannevb What in tarnation is a twapperkeeper? Is that like a chastity belt? #scriptchat -9:20 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb ok, looks like we'll have to read the US chat transcript backwards bc twapperkeeper is missing some tweets too *sigh* #scriptchat -9:18 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MisterFurley @sdarancette For you? Double. I smell rabble rousers from a mile away! #scriptchat -9:18 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MisterFurley @TravisLegge Your condition can be cured, Jack! #scriptchat -9:16 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb u chose wrong ;) heehee RT @ozzywood: Think I missed another #scriptchat. Bugger.Too many fun things in life. One has to choose! #scriptchat -9:16 PM May 9th, 2010
  
sdarancette @MisterFurley BTW am looking for a place in SM. How much is the rent in your building in the year 2010? #scriptchat -9:15 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Great chat, easier on the eyeballs tonight. Thanks all, night! #scriptchat -9:15 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb fyi WTHASHTAG.com SUCKS! 90 % of our chat transcript isn't there... again! #scriptchat -9:15 PM May 9th, 2010
  
ozzywood Think I missed another #scriptchat. Bugger. Too many fun things in life. One has to choose! -9:15 PM May 9th, 2010
  
sdarancette @MisterFurley SOLD! Who do I write the check out to? #scriptchat -9:14 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb totally! RT @dawnjohnston: Looking forward to it. Her shorts are hilarious! RT @jeannevb: Dont forget @NevadaGrey NEXT SUNDAY! #scriptchat -9:13 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston It's Three's Company meets Waiting for Godot? RT @MisterFurley: #scriptchat -9:13 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Timsn Nite all. #scriptchat -9:12 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge Call me Jack Tripper! RT @MisterFurley @TravisLegge Prom dress? I had a feeling about you, tippie toes! #scriptchat -9:12 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Looking forward to it. Here shorts are hilarious! RT @jeannevb: Don't forget @NevadaGrey NEXT SUNDAY! #scriptchat -9:11 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MisterFurley My vpf pitch: two women and a man live in an apt, they behave themselves and sit on the sofa. The end. #scriptchat -9:11 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb fyi, @NevadaGrey is HYSTERICAL. Watch her youtube shows: http://bit.ly/adruqu #scriptchat -9:11 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb Hate it when that happens #scriptchat -9:10 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb Thanks so much for chatting everyone. Don't forget @NevadaGrey from Virtual Pitch Fest NEXT SUNDAY! #scriptchat -9:10 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb Good idea, how do you decide what rating to go for #scriptchat -9:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MisterFurley @TravisLegge Prom dress? I had a feeling about you, tippie toes! #scriptchat -9:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb HEY! my girl goes to prom next week! SHUT UR MOUTH! ha RT @TravisLegge: K Im off like a prom dress. Peace #scriptchat -9:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
iHumble #truth RT @covermyscript the whole world is PERFECT 4 DIALOGUE. listen to everything. everyone. so interesting what you'll hear. #scriptchat -9:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @PennyAsh they made my ancestor in Flags of Our Fathers look like a pussy #scriptchat -9:08 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge K I'm off like a prom dress. Peace #scriptchat -9:08 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jolenejahnke @blankethouse Good story telling never goes out of style. Focus on the writing, not the genre. Trends change. #scriptchat -9:08 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb maybe 1 night we shld talk ratings.... for real. ;) We're going to discuss dirty talk 2, so keep ur moms out of the house #scriptchat -9:08 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Negation2010 RT @frombrain2tweet: I heard by alot of people lately that #Hollywood killed creativity. #ScriptChat: Agreed!!! -9:07 PM May 9th, 2010
  
tommybertin Baggy button-up and a barrel of coffee. Yup, it's a script-writing night. #scriptchat? -9:07 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb Definitely, loved the realism even if they did make my ancestor look bad :) #scriptchat -9:07 PM May 9th, 2010
  
CriticalTodd Bookmarked! RT @dawnjohnston: Here you go: http://simplynoise.com RT @CriticalTodd: @diannesalerni I need a white noise machine! #scriptchat -9:07 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb nor was the 1 we had penis talk in ;) RT @kingisafink: @jeannevb this #scriptchat has not yet been rated. #scriptchat -9:06 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @kingisafink It's XXX obscene! #scriptchat -9:06 PM May 9th, 2010
  
sdarancette @GoldenAgeofGeek No. It's so out there it can't be rated. #scriptchat receives the rare NR. -9:06 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb 1 of those films I ALWAYS stop flipping channels to watch RT @PennyAsh: @jeannevb Loved Braveheart #scriptchat -9:06 PM May 9th, 2010
  
kingisafink @jeannevb this #scriptchat has not yet been rated. -9:05 PM May 9th, 2010
  
frombrain2tweet I heard by alot of people lately that #Hollywood killed creativity. #ScriptChat -9:05 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald @eyamie I was kidding but it wouldn't surprise me. ;) #scriptchat -9:05 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb we can change that ha RT @GoldenAgeofGeek: @jeannevb R? I think were into NC-17 territory #scriptchat -9:05 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Good god, I thought you were joking RT @eyamie: @jmiewald Is it? I've read Mamet to write and direct with Will Ferrell to star. #scriptchat -9:05 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Timsn Music will inspire me but I need to write in quiet too. #scriptchat -9:05 PM May 9th, 2010
  
CriticalTodd @frombrain2tweet It's a small cheap book too - a system book (ie his formula) but I've found it generally useful for structure. #scriptchat -9:04 PM May 9th, 2010
  
GoldenAgeofGeek @jeannevb R? I think we're into NC-17 territory #scriptchat -9:04 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @jmiewald Is it? I've read Mamet to write and direct with Will Ferrell to star. Such is the state of Drama #scriptchat -9:04 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni @CriticalTodd Oh yeah! A cone of silence would rock! #scriptchat -9:04 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb Loved Braveheart #scriptchat -9:04 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Here you go: http://simplynoise.com/ RT @CriticalTodd: @diannesalerni I need a white noise machine! #scriptchat -9:04 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge My cue to run to the store. Out of Diet MT. DEW! RT @jeannevb oh man, an hour up already? #scriptchat -9:03 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb I wonder if #scriptchat needs an R rating? -9:03 PM May 9th, 2010
  
CriticalTodd @jamesdburch Yes. And he gets right to the core of things, no mumbo-jumbo! #scriptchat -9:03 PM May 9th, 2010
  
CriticalTodd @diannesalerni I need a white noise machine! Or at least a cone of silence! http://ht.ly/1IRTH #scriptchat -9:03 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston See ya! RT @MJ_Slide: alright I'm out. Off to watch Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid! #scriptchat -9:03 PM May 9th, 2010
  
4D4Films #Scriptchat IS debauchery! RT @TravisLegge: @MJ_Slide true #scriptchat is FULL of debauchery -9:02 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb oh man, an hour up already? #scriptchat -9:02 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Negation2010 BOOKS: For the historic stuff of writing: Aristotle "Poetic" - http://bit.ly/BZLCe /Deus ex machina - http://bit.ly/iJKfM #scriptchat -9:02 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @MJ_Slide god, there are so many. I love the classics. To Kill a Mockingbird. Gone w the Wind. Some great action too- Braveheart #scriptchat -9:02 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide alright I'm out. Off to watch Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid! peace, my scriptchat tweeps! Thanks for the blast! #scriptchat -9:01 PM May 9th, 2010
  
CriticalTodd Bad drama seems worse than other genres when done badly. Action films can fall back on the set pieces. What can a bad drama do? #scriptchat -9:01 PM May 9th, 2010
  
GoldenAgeofGeek @covermyscript It depends on where it fits or where the marketing boys think they can fit it #scriptchat -9:01 PM May 9th, 2010
  
SKCOMEDY I agree. Drama's alive if proven first in another medium. @dawnjohnston just for specs? RT @blankethouse:Drama DEAD in Hollywood?#scriptchat -9:01 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jeannevb *runs and tackles jeanne in big bear hug* #scriptchat -9:01 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald Based on the comic book? @eyamie Mamet is currently developing "Joan of Bark: The Dog That Saved France" #scriptchat -9:01 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge @MJ_Slide true #scriptchat is FULL of debauchery -9:01 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jeannevb fav drama? #scriptchat -9:00 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge RT @MJ_Slide: @TravisLegge for some ppl its getting naked. obviously since half the tweeps on scriptchat r. lol #scriptchat -9:00 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb Maybe not dead but taking a rest? #scriptchat -9:00 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie Mamet is currently developing "Joan of Bark: The Dog That Saved France" #scriptchat -8:59 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb EMERGENCY BROADCAST: I love you guys. That is all. Commence chatting #scriptchat -8:59 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @TravisLegge for some ppl its getting naked. obviously since half the tweeps on scriptchat r. lol #scriptchat -8:59 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript subject matter depends. spec or not. just depends if there's interest in subject. @dawnjohnston @blankethouse @jeannevb #scriptchat -8:59 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb I hope not. I LOVE dramas RT @blankethouse: @covermyscript @jeannevb One last ? - is Drama DEAD in Hollywood? #scriptchat -8:59 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb I hope not. I LOVE dramas RT @blankethouse: @covermyscript @jeannevb One last ? - is Drama DEAD in Hollywood?#scriptchat -8:58 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb *curtsy* RT @MJ_Slide: @jeannevb but we love u for it. =) #scriptchat -8:58 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge BEST ADVICE EVER: RT @MJ_Slide @TravisLegge oh, well whatever works. :) #scriptchat -8:58 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Or just for specs? RT @blankethouse: @covermyscript @jeannevb One last ? - is Drama DEAD in Hollywood?#scriptchat -8:58 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni @CriticalTodd Ha,ha, like your children arguing? I can ignore that -- like a white noise machine! #scriptchat -8:58 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @GoldenAgeofGeek Same in publishing : #scriptchat -8:58 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jeannevb but we love u for it. =) #scriptchat -8:58 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @TravisLegge oh, well whatever works. :) #scriptchat -8:57 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @GoldenAgeofGeek @blankethouse War movies are the drama of our time. #scriptchat -8:57 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript ha! lol. true. RT @GoldenAgeofGeek: @blankethouse In Hollywood the only drama is "Am I going to get paid for this?" #scriptchat -8:57 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript i don't think so. depends. RT @blankethouse: @covermyscript @jeannevb One last ? - is Drama DEAD in Hollywood?#scriptchat -8:57 PM May 9th, 2010
  
CriticalTodd I usually need quiet, or at least nothing that arrests my attention. "I just need something I can ignore!" #scriptchat -8:56 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni RT @GoldenAgeofGeek: @blankethouse In Hollywood the only drama is "Am I going to get paid for this?" #scriptchat -8:56 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald @blankethouse I think it depends on the subject matter. Politically charged drama is alive and well. #scriptchat -8:56 PM May 9th, 2010
  
GoldenAgeofGeek @blankethouse In Hollywood the only drama is "Am I going to get paid for this?" #scriptchat -8:56 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb I really need to stop updating chat blog resources DURING chat #OCDmoderator #scriptchat -8:56 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge @MJ_Slide No, I can't work in "the zone" i distract myself too much. Too loud in my head. I NEED distractions #scriptchat -8:56 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb They're wonderful for writing mystery too #scriptchat -8:56 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Now I'm really drooling RT @covermyscript: you're a genius for suggesting it. it tastes like sake candy. RT @UncompletedWork: #scriptchat -8:55 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @frombrain2tweet naw, i kill off my protagonist in 3 out of the 4 films i write. heroes death of course lol #scriptchat -8:55 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @MJ_Slide Me too :) #scriptchat -8:55 PM May 9th, 2010
  
blankethouse @covermyscript @jeannevb One last ? - is Drama DEAD in Hollywood? #scriptchat -8:55 PM May 9th, 2010
  
GoldenAgeofGeek @MJ_Slide Great for getting medieval #scriptchat -8:54 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript you're a genius for suggesting it. it tastes like sake candy. RT @UncompletedWork: Hey this #sake rocks the house. Plum :) #scriptchat -8:54 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb love those! RT @MJ_Slide: @PennyAsh oh Gregorian chants, could listen 4 dayz! #scriptchat -8:54 PM May 9th, 2010
  
frombrain2tweet Is it concerning that the last few #ShortFilms I've written the protagonist dies? #ScriptChat -8:54 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jamesdburch @CriticalTodd I like that Egri doesn't steer writers away from social commentary. #scriptchat -8:54 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @PennyAsh oh Gregorian chants, could listen 4 dayz! #scriptchat -8:53 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @HonorKnightASA They do :) Using them for my Steampunk book right now #scriptchat -8:53 PM May 9th, 2010
  
UncompletedWork Hey this #sake rocks the house. Plum :) #scriptchat -8:53 PM May 9th, 2010
   
sdarancette @HonorKnightASA Yes, I've written many a shoot-em up scene to AC/DC #scriptchat -8:53 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @MJ_Slide Oh yeah and for anything paranormal I like Gregorian chants or something mystic like Tibetan #scriptchat -8:53 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @TravisLegge im impressed, but i kno, u get in that "zone" & u r so out of this world & into ur own. mom doesnt like that :) #scriptchat -8:53 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript @XanxiuZ BWHAHA! it's funny. it's usually my house that smells good and everyone hates me for it. i guess i'm due. #scriptchat -8:52 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @SKCOMEDY Just hang a right at Vancouver and drive 30 hours ;) #scriptchat -8:52 PM May 9th, 2010
  
HonorKnightASA @PennyAsh AC/DC works very well for action. :) #scriptchat -8:51 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge @MJ_Slide I write in utter chaos. Music, Youtube videos, Kids running around, while editing video...#scriptchat -8:51 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni @jmiewald Me neither. But a smart phone works just as well. #scriptchat -8:51 PM May 9th, 2010
  
4D4Films @TravisLegge yeah, that's even worse! #scriptchat -8:51 PM May 9th, 2010
  
XanxiuZ @covermyscript You should go over there, kick in the door SWAT style and demand that they share their enchiladas with you. #scriptchat -8:51 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb hey @MJ_Slide @HonorKnightASA when i'd write, @Samuraiko wld send me music to write by ;) #scriptchat -8:50 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge RT @jeannevb: While ur all still naked & not drunk enuf to forget, @NevadaGrey is GUESTING nxt wk fr Virtual Pitch Fest! http://bit.ly/cZnr3t #scriptchat -8:50 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @MJ_Slide For action I like AC/DC, for romance Chopan, Mozart, or Teleman. Also Jerry Goldsmith for westerns #scriptchat -8:50 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @diannesalerni i could c how that works. cool to get all these different perspectives *grin* #scriptchat -8:50 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Great! RT @jeannevb: @dawnjohnston I'll def add it! Thanks! #scriptchat -8:50 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge @4D4Films or longhand...skip THAT! #scriptchat -8:50 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald Maybe my problem with music stems from the fact that I still don't have an iPod :-/ #scriptchat -8:50 PM May 9th, 2010
  
mjodirector RT @jeannevb: While ur all still naked & not drunk enuf to forget, @NevadaGrey is GUESTING nxt wk fr Virtual Pitch Fest! http://bit.ly/cZnr3t #scriptchat -8:50 PM May 9th, 2010
  
CriticalTodd Lajos Egris's "The Art of Dramatic Writing" is a classic and I've found it helpful as well. #scriptchat -8:49 PM May 9th, 2010
  
SKCOMEDY Geography is not my strong suit. #scriptchat -8:49 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript i find one song that sorta speaks to me, and then i listen to it on repeat until i'm done or someone else demands i stop. #scriptchat -8:49 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge RT @4D4Films: @TravisLegge So true, that's the beauty of electronic word processing these days, easy to redo bits as opposed to typewriters! #scriptchat -8:49 PM May 9th, 2010
  
4D4Films @TravisLegge So true, that's the beauty of electronic word processing these days, easy to redo bits as opposed to typewriters! #scriptchat -8:49 PM May 9th, 2010
  
SKCOMEDY Is that anywhere near Vancouver? I think I'm there in August. RT @eyamie When are you coming to Winnipeg?? #scriptchat -8:49 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jamesdburch I can sometimes better envision a scene if I'm listening to setting-specific music. @MJ_Slide #scriptchat -8:49 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @PennyAsh got a list of favs? i really dig chopin for dialogue scenes #scriptchat -8:48 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @dawnjohnston I'll def add it! Thanks! #scriptchat -8:48 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni @MJ_Slide I write best in silence. For me, music is good for brainstorming and planning, but not writing. #scriptchat -8:48 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript one of the best parts of a partner. to pick up where you falter. RT @jeannevb: Doug gets the prot so much better than I do #scriptchat -8:48 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb RT @HonorKnightASA: @MJ_Slide I always write my action scenes to music. Helps out quite a bit with the whole rhythm thing. #scriptchat -8:48 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @HonorKnightASA hans zimmer for me. #scriptchat -8:48 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Anatomy of Story RT @jeannevb: @dawnjohnston what's the name of Truby's book? #scriptchat -8:47 PM May 9th, 2010
  
SKCOMEDY Way cool! RT @jeannevb While ur all naked & not drunk enuf to forget, @NevadaGrey is GUESTING nxt wk fr Virtual Pitch Fest! #scriptchat -8:47 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @SKCOMEDY When are you coming to Winnipeg?? #scriptchat -8:47 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston It got me through my first script RT @jeannevb: @dawnjohnston I need to check our blog to see if I have that listed... #scriptchat -8:47 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jmiewald hum. never thought about it that way. cool. #scriptchat -8:47 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb always ;) RT @MJ_Slide: @jeannevb dang, u got me covered #ultimatetscriptchatpimp :) #scriptchat -8:47 PM May 9th, 2010
  
HonorKnightASA @MJ_Slide I always write my action scenes to music. Helps out quite a bit with the whole rhythm thing. #scriptchat -8:47 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @dawnjohnston what's the name of Truby's book? #scriptchat -8:47 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @MJ_Slide All the time, I use music to set the mood of the scene I'm working on #scriptchat -8:47 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jeannevb dang, u got me covered #ultimatetscriptchatpimp :) #scriptchat -8:46 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald @MJ_Slide I kind of think that music can be limiting. I know it is inspiring but it puts you on a pre-set track. #scriptchat -8:46 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @dawnjohnston I need to check our blog to see if I have that listed... *pulls up link* #scriptchat -8:46 PM May 9th, 2010
  
GoldenAgeofGeek @MJ_Slide all the time. I'll be on youtube looking at fan made music videos to get in the mood even! #scriptchat -8:46 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @covermyscript Doug gets the prot so much better than I do #scriptchat -8:46 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript someone is cooking, and it's not me, and it smells really good. #wishiwaseatingattheirhouse #scriptchat -8:46 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @MJ_Slide Never ever never ever never. #scriptchat -8:46 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @MJ_Slide I made a doc of the entire DVD! I'll email it to you ;) #scriptchat -8:45 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston I really, really liked John Truby's book for structure RT @MJ_Slide: @jeannevb *taking crazy amount of notes* #scriptchat -8:45 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide anyone else use music or score to inspire certain scenes? for me esp, action sequences w/ very little dialogue... #scriptchat -8:45 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb While ur all still naked & not drunk enuf to forget, @NevadaGrey is GUESTING nxt wk fr Virtual Pitch Fest! http://bit.ly/cZnr3t #scriptchat -8:45 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge @4D4Films Use a couple of them, pursue your options You can always delete later #scriptchat -8:45 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript @jeannevb that's all that matters. just keep developing and pushing and "listening" and you'll get there. #scriptchat -8:44 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Timsn Great DVD RT @jeannevb: @MJ_Slide I watched Michael Hauge's DVD the hero's 2 journeys. Help so much. #scriptchat -8:44 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jeannevb *taking crazy amount of notes* #scriptchat -8:44 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald @SKCOMEDY I think you will like it. :) #scriptchat -8:44 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @covermyscript yep & I NAILED him. So fun to write! But I'm still working on prot & am getting there w him & liking him more :) #scriptchat -8:43 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @covermyscript no likes a drab antagonist. =) #scriptchat -8:43 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript lol! that's my fav. directors hate that one! RT @sdarancette: Plus, there's always EXT. CITY - DAY A full scale RIOT ensues. #scriptchat -8:43 PM May 9th, 2010
  
SKCOMEDY @jmiewald I'm just starting to read Power of Now because a friend recommended it to me. #ScriptChat -8:43 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Decided to call it "taking a break" RT @jeannevb: @sdarancette and after first draft...#scriptchat -8:43 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @MJ_Slide I watched Michael Hauge's DVD the hero's 2 journeys. Help so much. #scriptchat -8:43 PM May 9th, 2010
  
4D4Films @TravisLegge @jeannevb There are so many options in the middle, sometimes it overwhelms and focus gets a bit foggy. #scriptchat -8:43 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @jmiewald It's all doorways to the same room, my man! Tolle is cool. #scriptchat -8:42 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge Good tactic that i suck at employing @diannesalerni I have to get that first scene right or I cant proceed. High Maintenance :) #scriptchat -8:42 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript hard. the ant is often way funner than the prot. RT @jeannevb: BIGGEST prob was loving/understanding antagonist more than prot #scriptchat -8:42 PM May 9th, 2010
  
sdarancette @covermyscript Plus, there's always EXT. CITY - DAY A full scale RIOT ensues. #scriptchat -8:42 PM May 9th, 2010
  
frombrain2tweet Pondering if there are any suggested #ScriptWriting books? #ScriptChat -8:42 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb me too! RT @dawnjohnston: haha! That's where I am right now! RT @jeannevb: @sdarancette and after first draft...#scriptchat -8:42 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald @eyamie Right. I am coming from an Eckhart Tolle perspective. I guess as long as it works, right? #scriptchat -8:41 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @ShadiAlli Nope, my family can't separate me from the characters I write #scriptchat -8:41 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni @ShadiAlli My family is ultra-Catholic but hasn't judged me for writing about paranormal. So far, they've separated me from work #scriptchat -8:41 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb Also bc it was true story,prot wasnt as active in real life so we had to be open to changing him. #scriptchat -8:41 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge RT @diannesalerni: @TravisLegge True! But try to consider the opening sequence throwaway, just to get started. Plan to come back later. #scriptchat -8:41 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jeannevb how do u overcome it, to get in touch with screenwriting structure? #scriptchat -8:40 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb This script my BIGGEST prob was loving/understanding antagonist more than prot that I had hard time making prot active enough #scriptchat -8:40 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Negation2010 BOOKS. Don't know it's helpful but it's one of the funny books about screenwriting: william m. akers "your screenplay sucks!" #scriptchat -8:40 PM May 9th, 2010
  
GoldenAgeofGeek @jeannevb outlining is easy for me because in your head it's all perfect. It's when u get to reality that things get messy #scriptchat -8:40 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @jmiewald Read Chomgyam Trungpa's Meditation In Action - that helped me a bunch but his view on med is different #scriptchat -8:40 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @UncompletedWork Sounds like Ed but he's a goose #scriptchat -8:40 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jeannevb Thanks! xoxo #scriptchat -8:40 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @MJ_Slide structure is my prob too. #scriptchat -8:39 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @diannesalerni i rewrite my opener at least a dozen times, its what captures the audience, its crucial #scriptchat -8:39 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge Totally true. Ask @wordsmithsarah! RT @jeannevb @TravisLegge ur so high maintenance ha xo #scriptchat -8:39 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Timsn RT @dawnjohnston: Me too, but on a walk with a mission RT @eyamie: @jmiewald I use focused daydream, or meditating with intention #scriptchat -8:39 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston haha! That's where I am right now! RT @jeannevb: @sdarancette and after first draft I'm scared to read it & find out it sucks #scriptchat -8:39 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb I hate outlining, I don't feel the need to write the story if I outline it #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @MJ_Slide I have a doc I can send you that helps ;) Will email.... #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 9th, 2010
   
ShadiAlli #scriptchat The biggest obstacle in wrtng is that my family will judge me 4 what I (or the characters) say & believe.Am I a minority in ths? -8:38 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @jmiewald Theta thought is where it's at! However you get theta waves going. #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge @4D4Films @jeannevb I can handle middles and ends just fine, though sometimes the transition from act 2 to 3 gets me down a bit. #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald Now, to be clear, meditation is the absence of thinking. You are making it a point to clear your mind and stop the wheels. #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 9th, 2010
  
UncompletedWork My favorite story note of the week: "Maybe you could make him an evil one-eyed duck" #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @TravisLegge ur so high maintenance ha xo #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jeannevb im so bad with script structure, i really have to work at it, i kno its worth it but i still havent found the joy yet #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Me too, but on a walk with a mission RT @eyamie: @jmiewald I use focused daydream, or meditating with intention #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni @TravisLegge True! But try to consider the opening sequence throwaway, just to get started. Plan to come back later. #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @sdarancette and after first draft. I'm scared to read it start to finish & find out it sucks ha #scriptchat -8:37 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald @eyamie Cool #scriptchat -8:37 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript @jmiewald i don't "meditate" as such, but i do many other things while thinking. video games, shopping, pedicure, whatever. #scriptchat -8:37 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge @jeannevb i know this sounds lame, but tweetchat seems inorganic to me cant explain it #scriptchat -8:37 PM May 9th, 2010
  
4D4Films @TravisLegge @jeannevb I usually know the beginning and end, it's the middle that becomes the bugger - mostly because of options #scriptchat -8:37 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb Outlining is hardest for me. Filling in all the gaps. But at same time, it's thrilling. Writers are masochists #scriptchat -8:37 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jeannevb oh yeah! i cuss a lot in my sleep and talk in a british accent lol #scriptchat -8:36 PM May 9th, 2010
  
GoldenAgeofGeek @jeannevb got to remind myself to keep at it and not get too down. #scriptchat -8:36 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @jmiewald I use focused daydream, or meditating with intention to solve story problems and imagine new scenes #scriptchat -8:36 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript me too! RT @SWKaraoke: excited to have @covermyscript @finaldraftinc @writersstore @scriptmag as sponsors http://bit.ly/dhw1uw #scriptchat -8:36 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @MJ_Slide bet your daddy loved that ;) #scriptchat -8:35 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge Beginnings are the most challenging for me. Getting that opening sequence started is a beast #scriptchat @jeannevb -8:35 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript right?! so cheap. one tweak is 6 weeks of redo. RT @sdarancette: you'd think animation would be cheap? you'd be wrong. #scriptchat -8:35 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @MJ_Slide Me too. I can't stand the perfect person, usually they're the worst of the lot #scriptchat -8:35 PM May 9th, 2010
  
SWKaraoke Totally excited to have @covermyscript @finaldraftinc @writersstore @scriptmag as sponsors http://bit.ly/dhw1uw #scriptchat -8:35 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @DoubleNW SMOOCH! put ur clothes back on before heading to the theatre haha #scriptchat -8:35 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald Has anyone tried meditating to create? I know its counter-intuitive to empty your mind to "think" but it does work #scriptchat -8:34 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @GoldenAgeofGeek so how do you overcome it? Bit by bit? #scriptchat -8:34 PM May 9th, 2010
  
DoubleNW Alright #scriptchat I'm out- movies starting. As always, it's been fun!! U're Awesome @jeannevb!!!! -8:34 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jeannevb so true, one night a yelled "Shut the he** up, I'm trying to sleep" characters wouldn't shut up :) #scriptchat -8:34 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @TravisLegge tweet from http://tweetchat.com/room/scriptchat Auto adds hashtag :) #scriptchat -8:34 PM May 9th, 2010
  
4D4Films @jeannevb For better or worse! :-) #scriptchat -8:34 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript @eyamie a script is a tool to make art. while the content must be art, the actual thing is a step-by-step how-to guide. #scriptchat -8:34 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb TY Chaps, spurs, and even a stetson or three #scriptchat -8:34 PM May 9th, 2010
  
GoldenAgeofGeek @jeannevb hardest part is the middle, after I've laid the track but still have a ton of work to do to complete #scriptchat -8:34 PM May 9th, 2010
  
UncompletedWork Oops an now just realizing I was simul-tweeting from both of my accounts, sorry for that #scriptchat -8:33 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @4D4Films a writer's mind is never quiet ;) #scriptchat -8:33 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge I tend to get an idea, a plot element character, or location, and just sit down and bang it out. #scriptchat (4got to hashtag. oops!) -8:33 PM May 9th, 2010
  
blankethouse @covermyscript I do the same, but email, that way its on my laptop U can send ur ideas to me & I'll send back.may still say wtf! #scriptchat -8:33 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston long walks, shower, driving, trying to sleep - most creative RT @MJ_Slide: @jeannevb long walks for me #scriptchat -8:33 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald @covermyscript Can you say? Send me a private message. I love Cartoon Network. #scriptchat -8:33 PM May 9th, 2010
  
sdarancette @covermyscript Yup! You'd think animation would be cheap because it's just drawings. You'd be wrong. #scriptchat -8:32 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb what is your biggest obstacle in writing & how do you overcome it? #scriptchat -8:32 PM May 9th, 2010
  
4D4Films @jeannevb And sometimes seeing a situation or people interacting can spark an idea that ends up a scene or entire idea. #scriptchat -8:32 PM May 9th, 2010
  
SWKaraoke At GAPF giving FREE subscriptions to @scriptmag copies of @finaldraftinc's FD 8 and FD A/V coupons for @writersstore and more! #scriptchat -8:32 PM May 9th, 2010
  
UncompletedWork At GAPF giving FREE subscriptions to @scriptmag copies of @finaldraftinc's FD 8 and FD A/V coupons for @writersstore and more! #scriptchat -8:32 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh I do plot naps, daydreaming while I do housework, anything mindless & I'm thinking story #scriptchat -8:32 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @PennyAsh so true, no one is perfect, hate when they r in films unless the making a point of the how unrealistic that is. #scriptchat -8:32 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript @jmiewald a bunch. ;-p #scriptchat -8:32 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @PennyAsh congrats you wild, crazy girl! xo Chaps for all! ha #scriptchat -8:31 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jeannevb long walks for me, came up with some of my best stuff strolling through the woods. #scriptchat -8:31 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald @covermyscript Oh! What cartoons?!! #scriptchat -8:31 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript <3loser turned good guy. they're hard to write because you don't always want to stick it out through their transformation. #scriptchat -8:31 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb Yep, proposed it to my publisher, they liked it so been crazy busy writing it :) #scriptchat -8:31 PM May 9th, 2010
  
GoldenAgeofGeek @diannesalerni Heh My brother saw the room, apparently they have transitions but they come back at it's still the same day! #scriptchat -8:30 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide #scriptchat awesome news! @finaldraftinc @writersstore & @scriptmag r now SPONSORS of #ScreenwriterKaraoke http://bit.ly/5TAFHA #scriptchat -8:30 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TheHouseFilm RT @blankethouse: RT @jeannevb: #scriptchat OPEN FORUM starting in a few minutes.... fill your glasses! -8:30 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @4D4Films i'm a big daydreamer too. I get into a zen mindset while I run & come up w my best ideas then #scriptchat -8:30 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @covermyscript Don't forget a movie isn't the real world. A script can be powerful poetry! #scriptchat -8:30 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge Listening is the second most important component to writing, exceeded only by writing. @covermyscript #scriptchat -8:30 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript @jmiewald well, i write some cartoons, so you'll have to ask the fat kids eating cereal if i'm entertaining. ;-p #scriptchat -8:30 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Timsn Yes RT @covermyscript: the whole world is PERFECT FOR DIALOGUE. listen to everything. everyone. so interesting what you'll hear. #scriptchat -8:30 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jeannevb luv me some anti-heroes, fun to write, getting into their heads #scriptchat -8:30 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @MJ_Slide I write flwed people, sometimes very flawed, they're more interesting than nice people #scriptchat -8:30 PM May 9th, 2010
  
UncompletedWork #scriptchat awesome news! @finaldraftinc @writersstore & @scriptmag are now SPONSORS of #ScreenwriterKaraoke http://bit.ly/5TAFHA -8:30 PM May 9th, 2010
  
SWKaraoke #scriptchat awesome news! @finaldraftinc @writersstore & @scriptmag are now SPONSORS of #ScreenwriterKaraoke http://bit.ly/5TAFHA -8:30 PM May 9th, 2010
  
GoldenAgeofGeek @MJ_Slide I'm really good at villains, people who are driven to do bad things #scriptchat -8:29 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge RT @covermyscript: the whole world is PERFECT FOR DIALOGUE. listen to everything. everyone. so interesting what you'll hear. #scriptchat -8:29 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @MJ_Slide I LOVE the antagonist. Not just making him bad, but making him human. Flawed. Relatable. #scriptchat -8:29 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni Ok, here's new topic: Passage of time. How best to show time passing in yr script w/o using cliches? #scriptchat -8:29 PM May 9th, 2010
  
ShadiAlli I do, @jeannevb, & it has proven to be immense benefit to me! I have my best ideas when I'm half sleep & know it's rt there 4 me #scriptchat -8:29 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald @covermyscript Well, as long as you think other people will be entertained by them. #scriptchat -8:29 PM May 9th, 2010
  
4D4Films @jeannevb Unfortunately I don't remember most of my dreams when I wake up,it's mostly daydream type thoughts throughout the day. #scriptchat -8:29 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript the whole world is PERFECT FOR DIALOGUE. listen to everything. everyone. so interesting what you'll hear. #scriptchat -8:29 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @PennyAsh OMG! a series!!!!!????? *drool* #scriptchat -8:28 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript @jmiewald the asshole characters won't stop waking me up. & it's really the only thing i've been thinking about since i was 10. #scriptchat -8:28 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb any1 have ideas for improving chat? Don't be afraid to knock on the #treefort door & suggest something. I won't punch... hard ;) #scriptchat -8:28 PM May 9th, 2010
  
4D4Films Good to keep in mind! RT @Timsn: Think about audience after the script is written. Where will you market it? Who will like it? #scriptchat -8:28 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide here's a question, what r u fav types of characters to write and what challenges to they create? #scriptchat -8:28 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @jmiewald Or they believe the audience for their spec script is moviegoers #scriptchat -8:27 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @jmiewald I would too, sadly it's not #scriptchat -8:27 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @covermyscript dialogue, like to shut my eyes in a coffee shop, just listening. #scriptchat -8:27 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston unfortunately, I do my best thinking as I'm trying to sleep RT @jeannevb: I ALWAYS have notepad in my car, my purse, everywhere #scriptchat -8:27 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb LOL yep, aint it fun? The cowboys have their own series now :) We're moving up in the world #scriptchat -8:27 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript i text. if i have something good, an idea a line whatever, i text myself to remind me. or i text a friend. they're like "wtf?" #scriptchat -8:27 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald It seems to me that some people write to fulfill some kind of ego wish. #scriptchat -8:27 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb reminder: OPEN TOPIC, so we can talk more than just dialogue #scriptchat -8:27 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @diannesalerni and u can fall back to sleep faster if u dont get out of bed :) #scriptchat -8:26 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Negation2010 Books: Cameron Crowe - His interview with Billy Wilder. Sorry don't have the eng. titel. Great Book. Deep insight of Wilder #scriptchat -8:26 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript for dialogue?! eavesdrop everywhere i go! <3 it. plus people always confess everything to me. good for stories and for dialogue. #scriptchat -8:26 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @blankethouse Ya sure that's a pen lol #scriptchat -8:26 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Timsn @jmiewald I think about it befoe just don't dwell on it. #scriptchat -8:26 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @PennyAsh you're really messed up, you know that? ;) Btw, what do the cowboys say? HAHAHA I'd kill to hear that! #scriptchat -8:26 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald @PennyAsh That's good. I would assume that was obvious, tho' #scriptchat -8:26 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @covermyscript LOL they truly are #scriptchat -8:25 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jmiewald sometimes i write a script simply for myself but i guess i am the audience so i am thinking of it. :) #scriptchat -8:25 PM May 9th, 2010
  
blankethouse @jeannevb I sleep w/ a note pad and pen IN Hand! Haha #scriptchat -8:25 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @dawnjohnston I ALWAYS have notepad in my car, my purse, everywhere #scriptchat -8:25 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @diannesalerni I love those middle-of-the-night inspirations. Wait... that sounds wrong haha #scriptchat -8:25 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript they're a bunch of assholes, characters. ;-p RT @PennyAsh: mine tend to sneak up on me and insist I write their story #scriptchat -8:25 PM May 9th, 2010
  
4D4Films So true! RT @UncompletedWork: RE: Budget. Need to have sense/scope of your script. To be ignorant of it, spells doom! #scriptchat -8:25 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @jmiewald I always keep my audience in mind, I know what they want & write accordingly #scriptchat -8:25 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni @jeannevb But now I'm thinking a notepad would save me some steps. LOL #scriptchat -8:25 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript am a purist in everything. i want my food to taste of what it is, and i want my characters to be dazzling in their own right. #scriptchat -8:24 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @covermyscript mine dominate my thoughts, long walks, daydreams, math sessions lol #scriptchat -8:24 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Notebooks everywhere, hard to keep track RT @jeannevb: Do any of you sleep with a notepad & pen next to your bed? #scriptchat -8:24 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald @Timsn Why would you write a script without first thinking of the audience? #scriptchat -8:24 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @sdarancette train is great too... so is the mall if youre looking for teen dialogue #scriptchat -8:24 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni @jeannevb No, but I've come downstairs to type out random images after waking up in middle of night. #scriptchat -8:24 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript good place to be. RT @MJ_Slide: getting to be a bit of a minimalist, keep the sets/locations simple, let the characters shine. #scriptchat -8:24 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jeannevb YES! drives me sisters nuts! lol "MJ Shut off the dang light1" #scriptchat -8:24 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @covermyscript Mine tend to sneak up on me and insist I write their story #scriptchat -8:24 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript @diannesalerni lol! my chars demand attention. they're all a little glenn close in fatal attraction. "i won't be ignored, xandy!"#scriptchat -8:23 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb haha RT @eyamie: @jeannevb Want me to get @misterfurley out here? #scriptchat -8:23 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Timsn Think about audience after the script is written. Where will you market it? Who will like it? #scriptchat -8:23 PM May 9th, 2010
  
LisaFromNYC I 1st dump dialog & 1/2 way thrgh, chars speak 2 me. So on rewrt I put their voices in one char at a time #scriptchat -8:23 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide HAHAA RT @diannesalerni: I practice talking to them in the shower. (now im gonna get new followers cause #scriptchat -8:23 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Ah, even better RT @TravisLegge: Actually referring to the amount of FX makeup you make with $40 dollar investment at a grocery #scriptchat -8:23 PM May 9th, 2010
  
sdarancette As for original dialogue taken from real life, I just eavesdrop (sp?) a lot. Plus take the bus sometime, it's a goldmine #scriptchat -8:23 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb Do any of you sleep with a notepad & pen next to your bed? I have the most bizarre dreams... Clockwork Orange dreams ;) #scriptchat -8:23 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @jeannevb Want me to get @misterfurley out here? #scriptchat -8:23 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @covermyscript im getting to be a bit of a minimalist, keep the sets/locations simple, let the characters shine. #scriptchat -8:23 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Awesome! RT @TravisLegge: Hell yes! RT @dawnjohnston Veggiemation? #scriptchat -8:22 PM May 9th, 2010
  
DoubleNW I start writing when I hear the voices :) My sister says I'm crazy but I just wait 4 some1 2 start telling their story #scriptchat -8:22 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni @covermyscript I practice talking to them in the shower. (now i'm gonna get new followers cause i tweeted naked & shower tonite) #scriptchat -8:22 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript i usually start when they wake me up. RT @PennyAsh: And when I hear the characters I know them well enough for any situation #scriptchat -8:22 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript and tight-wad producers. RT @sdarancette: Right. Normally you have to work with established characters and settings #scriptchat -8:22 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge Actually referring to the amount of FX makeup you can make with a $40 dollar investment at a grocery @dawnjohnston #scriptchat -8:22 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald @eyamie Oh no, I know people constantly write without a 2nd thought for the audience. Believe me. #scriptchat -8:21 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb I feel like we're missing people #scriptchat -8:21 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript figure out the essence of a scene. all the sfx, big budget whatever, that's all window dressing for your emotional payoff. #scriptchat -8:21 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @Negation2010 you're a great #scriptchat pimpette ;) -8:21 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge Hell yes! RT @dawnjohnston Veggiemation? RT @TravisLegge: True, or simple fx programs. Or a grocery store and some ingenuity #scriptchat -8:21 PM May 9th, 2010
  
sdarancette @covermyscript Right. Normally you have to work with established characters and settings #scriptchat -8:21 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @covermyscript And when I hear the characters I know them well enough for any situation #scriptchat -8:21 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni RT @covermyscript: i dont write word 1 til the characters have been "talking" to me. i need to "hear" them to write effectively. #scriptchat -8:20 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @jmiewald I think you'd be surprised #scriptchat -8:20 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge Definitely use what you have, but look sideways at what you have. 5 uses for each tool=Multitooling @MJ_Slide @covermyscript #scriptchat -8:20 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb same RT @covermyscript: i dont write word 1 til chara "talking" to me. i need to "hear" them in order to write them effectively. #scriptchat -8:20 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript but features are different. there is room. but just be prepared to pair down, like woody allen and his phonebooth. #scriptchat -8:20 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Veggiemation? RT @TravisLegge: True, or simple fx programs. Or a grocery store and some ingenuity #scriptchat -8:20 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @dawnjohnston i kinda just let it come, day dream about how they r, their surroundings etc... #scriptchat -8:20 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald Anyone that needs to remind themselves of this is not a writer RT @Timsn Word to your mutha - one rule: consider the audience #scriptchat -8:20 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript for television you have to. there's just no other choice. RT @MJ_Slide: couldn't agree more, work w/ what u got. #scriptchat -8:20 PM May 9th, 2010
  
scripteach RT @TravisLegge: I have the opposite result. Limits hinder ... but whatever works, is best thing to do! #scriptchat UR right, ABSOLUTELY! -8:20 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript i don't write word one until the characters have been "talking" to me. i need to "hear" them in order to write them effectively. #scriptchat -8:19 PM May 9th, 2010
  
UncompletedWork RE: Budget. Need to have a sense/be aware of the $ scope of your script. To be ignorant of it, spells doom for your project #scriptchat -8:19 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @Timsn Word to your mutha - one rule: consider the audience #scriptchat -8:19 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge AMEN RT @Timsn I don't really write with budget in mind. There are enough rules. I do think about audience. #scriptchat -8:19 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @covermyscript couldn't agree more, work w/ what u got. #scriptchat -8:18 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript it's really like the upcylcing version of screenwriting. take what you have, rearrange, spitshine & send back out to the world. #scriptchat -8:18 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston I'm opposite! I need them to speak before I know them RT @jeannevb: @MJ_Slide I need to KNOW them before I can write their voice #scriptchat -8:18 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript it's too expensive to create "new" characters / locations. so you have to be clever and use what you have. #scriptchat -8:17 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Yes! Logo storm troopers! RT @scripteach: RT @dawnjohnston: There's always claymation #scriptchat LOL. Or Legos! -8:17 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge RT @DoubleNW: #scriptchat U just have 2 let creativity flow naturally... U're the writer, let the producers/directors handle the budget. -8:17 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Timsn I don't really write with budget in mind. There are enough rules. I do think about audience. #scriptchat -8:17 PM May 9th, 2010
  
DoubleNW Of course unless u're the writer, producer/director n the beginning :) Still, just let it flow #scriptchat -8:17 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Negation2010 RT @cheesehead1976: your opinion of Mamet? I personally can't stand his work.: It's one of our masters. But's ok if you can't #scriptchat -8:17 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript in animation you have to write to budget all the time. it's just madatory. #scriptchat -8:17 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @MJ_Slide I make chars VERY detailed before I ever let em open their mouths. I need to KNOW them before I can write their voice #scriptchat -8:17 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston They're so tied together - My outlined chars become more real once they speak RT @Timsn: I think dialogue comes out of chars #scriptchat -8:17 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge . @scripteach I have the opposite result. Limits at the keyboard hinder my writing, but whatever works, is the best thing to do! #scriptchat -8:17 PM May 9th, 2010
  
WriterChanelle On the bus :( RT @scripteach: It's 8pm EST ... do you know where your screenwriter is? #scriptchat -8:16 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie Ya so if I write a spec looking for 2.5% of budget, I get paid more if I write a higher-budget flick. #scriptchat -8:16 PM May 9th, 2010
  
scripteach RT @dawnjohnston: There's always claymation #scriptchat LOL. Or Legos! -8:16 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @Danisidhe HAHAHA! I'll cover up :) Btw, dying to lurk on #storycraft but w 2 scriptchats, I have to preserve my API ;( #scriptchat -8:16 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge True, or simple fx programs. Or a grocery store and some ingenuity RT @dawnjohnston There's always claymation #scriptchat -8:16 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @Timsn did write detailed characters before starting the screenplay or let them play out as they story develops? #scriptchat -8:15 PM May 9th, 2010
  
sdarancette I don't usually let a budget restrict my creativity, however I do keep it in mind. And I am prepared to pare it down to suit. #scriptchat -8:15 PM May 9th, 2010
  
scripteach RT @diannesalerni: knew had to write from POV of sweetheart left behind. 2/2 #scriptchat Interesting! Formed whole new perspective. -8:15 PM May 9th, 2010
  
DoubleNW #scriptchat U just have 2 let creativity flow naturally... U're the writer, let the producers/directors handle the budget. -8:15 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Negation2010 More books : Michael Ballhaus The Flying Eye/Michael Ondaatje: The Conversions. Walter Murch and the art of Editing Film #scriptchat -8:15 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Danisidhe #scriptchat sounds great but I've been up since 4am preparing #storycraft and my brain is boggled. Also - you guys are naked! Ew! :D /peek -8:15 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni LOL! RT @dawnjohnston: Theres always claymation #scriptchat -8:15 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb Happy Mom's Day to all the mom screenwriters out there. Yes, I'm ignoring my family tonight after great day w them :) #scriptchat -8:15 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Timsn I would think dialogue comes out of chars. If they are strong, they almost write the dialogue for you #scriptchat -8:14 PM May 9th, 2010
  
scripteach RT @TravisLegge: My $.02- Write your story. Screw the budget... #scriptchat I find that if I know what limits are 1st, I am more creative. -8:14 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston There's always claymation RT @TravisLegge: Write your story. Screw the budget. If you like a scene, you'll make it happen #scriptchat -8:14 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @GoldenAgeofGeek and the DOP, and Actor lol #scriptchat -8:13 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @Timsn Hah :) Sneaky,, my inner spook loves it :D #scriptchat -8:13 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni So I knew had to write from the point of view of sweetheart left behind. 2/2 #scriptchat -8:13 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @scripteach brilliant ideas will not allow themselves to be squelched by lack of funds. itll happen if u really want it to :) #scriptchat -8:13 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni Important to think budget. For my adaptation, I had to know from start that I couldn't take male hero on location (Arctic) 1/2 #scriptchat -8:13 PM May 9th, 2010
  
GoldenAgeofGeek @jeannevb on indies, a lot of times the writer IS the producer and director #scriptchat -8:13 PM May 9th, 2010
  
blankethouse @TravisLegge @4D4Films Excellents answer Travis on budget. #scriptchat -8:13 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @zacsanford you spoil your boss. Just sayin ;) #scriptchat -8:12 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript it's like you vanished. RT @zacsanford: Missing #scriptchat tonight since I'm taking the boss to the airport. Have fun y'all. -8:12 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Timsn Iphone is gr*. Ppl think ur texting RT @PennyAsh: @Timsn Definitely, ont compatible with yout computer for downloads #scriptchat -8:12 PM May 9th, 2010
  
UncompletedWork RT @zacsanford: Missing #scriptchat tonight since I'm taking the boss to the airport. Have fun y'all. {Lies, hiding a body again?} -8:12 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge My $.02- Write your story. Screw the budget. If you like a scene well enough, you'll figure out a way to make it happen #scriptchat -8:12 PM May 9th, 2010
  
4D4Films @MJ_Slide that's definitely the good side of it! #scriptchat -8:12 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston With you there! RT @Negation2010: RT @Leavittnovelist: What about John Truby? more thanMcKee.: Yes Truby & Christopher Vogler #scriptchat -8:12 PM May 9th, 2010
  
scripteach RT @blankethouse: does that hinder the story line/creativity? #scriptchat NO! It actually INCREASES creativity--no $ to solve issues. -8:12 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @scripteach very true, good example! #scriptchat -8:11 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @scripteach very true, good example! #scriptchat -8:11 PM May 9th, 2010
  
zacsanford Missing #scriptchat tonight since I'm taking the boss to the airport. Have fun y'all. -8:11 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @blankethouse $$ hinders everything, but then u just have to get MORE creative ;) Think of it as challenge #scriptchat -8:11 PM May 9th, 2010
  
scripteach RT @MJ_Slide: @scripteach and when ur resources r next 2 none, u r very aware of the fact lol #scriptchat ...PARANOROMAL ACTIVITY, etc. -8:11 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni Watched part of Adaptation since last week's chat. Surprised at the differences between movie and script. #scriptchat -8:11 PM May 9th, 2010
  
UncompletedWork best way to get a sense of BUDGET, is to work production. Don't be a one trick pony, know the cost of the work, and write to it. #scriptchat -8:11 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript "take this 5-car pile up and turn it into one guy talking in a phone booth." even the best think about $$ when moviemaking #scriptchat -8:11 PM May 9th, 2010
  
GoldenAgeofGeek @MJ_Slide I can't say for sure, I think if a season screenwriter hashed this out more things would have connected up #scriptchat -8:11 PM May 9th, 2010
  
scripteach RT @MJ_Slide: and when ur resources r next 2 none, u r very aware of the fact lol #scriptchat True! But look at FROZEN RIVER... -8:11 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @Timsn Definitely, ont compatible with yout computer for downloads #scriptchat -8:10 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb *giggle* I love u xo RT @diannesalerni: How do you know Im not always naked for #scriptchat -8:10 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Negation2010 RT @Leavittnovelist: What about John Truby? (books for screenwriters) him much more thanMcKee.: Yes Truby & Christopher Vogler #scriptchat -8:10 PM May 9th, 2010
  
4D4Films Good approach! RT @TravisLegge: On multiple drafts i consider budget. First draft I NEVER consider budget. No restraint on ideas #scriptchat -8:10 PM May 9th, 2010
  
blankethouse @scripteach @jeannevb Part 2 of that same budget ? - does that hinder the story line/creativity? #scriptchat -8:10 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @4D4Films forces me to be more creative, instead of just blowing something up i gotta force my mind out of a box. #scriptchat -8:10 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb Best chat EVER! ;) RT @eyamie: @jeannevb Am naked now #scriptchat -8:10 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni How do you know I'm not always naked for #scriptchat -8:10 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @jeannevb Am naked now #scriptchat -8:10 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript woody allen always said that he wrote a scene and then when they would go into pre-pro then his producer would say... #scriptchat -8:10 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @GoldenAgeofGeek the whole bloody script?! #scriptchat -8:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb LOL yep #scriptchat #scriptchat -8:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @Timsn got any good tips? #scriptchat -8:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @diannesalerni welcome! Open Forum tonight! Run wild & naked... #scriptchat -8:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
4D4Films @jeannevb It is a bit challenging since you can't just write whatever you want, being budget conscious and all. :-) #scriptchat -8:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @scripteach Recording- good tip, & digital recorders are cheap & small #scriptchat -8:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge Let me clarify. On multiple drafts i consider budget. First draft I NEVER consider budget. No restraint on ideas #scriptchat -8:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @diannesalerni welcome! #scriptchat -8:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
GoldenAgeofGeek @eyamie haven't seen it no. But it wouldn't suprise me if it were ad libbed #scriptchat -8:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Timsn Get a good tiny recorder RT @PennyAsh: @jeannevb @MJ_Slide The trick is not to look like you're listening :)#scriptchat -8:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @MJ_Slide I was kind of imagining that it meant they had treatment or storyboards but little dialogue, like an Altman movie #scriptchat -8:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb stalker 101 ;) RT @PennyAsh: @jeannevb @MJ_Slide The trick is not to look like youre listening :)#scriptchat #scriptchat -8:09 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @scripteach and when ur resources r next 2 none, u r very aware of the fact lol #scriptchat -8:08 PM May 9th, 2010
  
DoubleNW Budget is important #scriptchat -8:08 PM May 9th, 2010
  
diannesalerni Hello everyone! A little late, but here! #scriptchat -8:08 PM May 9th, 2010
  
UncompletedWork Since we're doing an open forum, I would like to take this time to mention how great Net Flix is. Streaming to my wii and bluray #ScriptChat -8:08 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript we're drinking it room temp. is delish. RT @sdarancette: SAKE FUN FACT: high quality sake isn't meant to be served warm #scriptchat. -8:08 PM May 9th, 2010
  
TravisLegge I dont RT @jeannevb: I wld guess yes RT @blankethouse: @jeannevb ...do Indie writers/directors/producers write w/budget in mind? #scriptchat -8:08 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Timsn Actually dialogue is a great topic! #scriptchat -8:08 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb @MJ_Slide The trick is not to look like you're listening :)#scriptchat -8:08 PM May 9th, 2010
  
scripteach RT @blankethouse: @jeannevb do Indie writers/directors write w/a budget in mind? #scriptchat ABSOLUTELY! You write to strength of resources. -8:08 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Timsn I would like to know -- how to dodge lawsuits when you've written a roman à clef? #scriptchat -8:07 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Ya, how would that even work? RT @MJ_Slide: @eyamie no way! do they do that, unscripting feature films? #scriptchat -8:07 PM May 9th, 2010
  
sdarancette @covermyscript SAKE FUN FACT: high quality sake isn't meant to be served warm #scriptchat. -8:07 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @eyamie no way! do they do that, unscripting feature films? #scriptchat -8:06 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @4D4Films phew... good to know ha. I certainly would! ;) #scriptchat -8:06 PM May 9th, 2010
  
DoubleNW #scriptchat I haven't written anything since the start of 2010. Have no creativity @ all. It's cool tho, what I've written is doing its' job -8:06 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Scatoma Strewnfields weekly chapter http://strewnfields.blogspot.com/ #readcast #amwriting #writing #bookbuzzr #scriptchat #fiction #novels #writers -8:06 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @scripteach cool, never thought of that, thanks! #scriptchat -8:06 PM May 9th, 2010
  
4D4Films We do! RT @jeannevb: I wld guess yes RT @blankethouse: @jeannevb ...do Indie writers/directors/producers write w/budget in mind? #scriptchat -8:06 PM May 9th, 2010
  
covermyscript thanks @UncompletedWork for the sake for #scriptchat tonight. it's delicious and i'm well on my way to drunkeness. let the chatting begin. -8:06 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @GoldenAgeofGeek Have you seen a screenplay for Iron Man 2? Heard a rumor it was basically unscripted #scriptchat -8:06 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @blankethouse heck yes! I have to! #scriptchat -8:06 PM May 9th, 2010
  
scripteach RT @UncompletedWork: RT @scripteach: It's 8pm EST ... do you know where your screenwriter is?#scriptchat (In bed?) No, that'd be 8_AM_! -8:06 PM May 9th, 2010
  
scripteach RT @MJ_Slide: Best tips for writing dialogue #scriptchat Record conversations with people, especially for regional or professional stuff. -8:05 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb I wld guess yes RT @blankethouse: @jeannevb Im dying to know is; do Indie writers/directors/producers write w a budget in mind? #scriptchat -8:04 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jolenejahnke @UncompletedWork ello! #scriptchat -8:04 PM May 9th, 2010
  
dawnjohnston Hi all, got here right at the beginning this time. ('cause I got my timezones wrong) #scriptchat -8:04 PM May 9th, 2010
  
BarryCurcio RT @MJ_Slide: @jeannevb so easedrop? #scriptchat I am new and fascinated so I think I will easedrop. -8:04 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @MJ_Slide yes, lurk & listen. Shutting ur mouth & opening ur ears helps :) #scriptchat -8:04 PM May 9th, 2010
  
GoldenAgeofGeek @eyamie what I liked is that kept it tight on the character of Tony Stark. #scriptchat -8:04 PM May 9th, 2010
  
blankethouse @jeannevb Ok, 1 ? Im dying to know is; do Indie writers/directors/producers write with a budget in mind? #scriptchat -8:04 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb join us! http://tweetchat.com/room/scriptchat RT @shericandler: @djchamberlain do you know about this? RT @jeannevb: Its time #scriptchat -8:04 PM May 9th, 2010
  
WriterChanelle Had to work late. Missing #scriptchat :(( -8:04 PM May 9th, 2010
  
PennyAsh Am back. Silly computer crashed on me. #scriptchat -8:03 PM May 9th, 2010
  
UncompletedWork Hey Folks, I'm settling in for #scriptchat open forum tonight, me thinks. Hello! -8:03 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jolenejahnke Hey gang! #scriptchat -8:03 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide @jeannevb so easedrop? #scriptchat -8:03 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb @Negation2010 you're a wealth of knowledge tonight, thank you! #scriptchat -8:03 PM May 9th, 2010
  
UncompletedWork RT @scripteach: It's 8pm EST ... do you know where your screenwriter is?#scriptchat (In bed?) -8:02 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @GoldenAgeofGeek I was so relieved that it had the same tone as the first #scriptchat -8:02 PM May 9th, 2010
  
DoubleNW #scriptchat #scriptchat #scriptchat :) I'm actually about 2 c Iron Man 2. -8:02 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb I listen as much as possible to ppl talking RT @MJ_Slide: Best tips for writing dailogue, hit ne w/ em! #scriptchat -8:02 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Negation2010 Books to read as an screenwriter: Bruno Bettelheim, Alice Miller, Linda Seger, Luis Bunuel, Francois Truffaut... #scriptchat -8:02 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide MJ Slide reporting for #scriptchat duty, already popped the first question. :) -8:02 PM May 9th, 2010
  
GoldenAgeofGeek Saw Iron Man 2. Liked it but didn't love it. Took some real chances with the script though #scriptchat -8:02 PM May 9th, 2010
  
shericandler @djchamberlain do you know about this? RT @jeannevb: It's time for #scriptchat -8:01 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb OPEN FORUM... who has a pressing topic they want to throw out RT @Timsn: Hi #scriptchat whats the topic? #scriptchat -8:01 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Wuxia RT @Negation2010: A List of screenwriting software: http://bit.ly/prJ6Y #scriptchat -8:01 PM May 9th, 2010
  
scripteach It's 8pm EST ... do you know where your screenwriter is? #scriptchat -8:01 PM May 9th, 2010
  
MJ_Slide Best tips for writing dailogue, hit ne w/ em! #scriptchat -8:01 PM May 9th, 2010
  
LisaFromNYC About 2 bone up on my speed reading skills with #scriptchat -8:01 PM May 9th, 2010
  
eyamie @jeannevb Happy Mom's Day - all pimpitude aside, if there were a scriptchat mom, it would be thee #scriptchat -8:01 PM May 9th, 2010
  
Timsn Hi #scriptchat what's the topic? -8:00 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb Time for OPEN FORUM.... talk about anything screenwriting that you've been wanting to explore #scriptchat -8:00 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jmiewald Is there #scriptchat tonight? -8:00 PM May 9th, 2010
  
jeannevb It's time for #scriptchat -7:59 PM May 9th, 2010

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